第一次開箱：Weiss Int 204

cckk

ok102006 發表於 2015-4-3 15:48
I like this design, all in one case, FYI

Ching, 呢部機睇落好得喎, 可否俾多D資料呀?

Raymondcheng888

ok102006 發表於 2015-4-3 15:48
I like this design, all in one case, FYI

Ching, 呢部機睇落好得喎, 可否俾多D資料呀? X 2

keroro2007

ok102006 發表於 2015-4-3 15:48
I like this design, all in one case, FYI

呢個係幾靚仔

不過冇我嗰個分得咁多份模組. 呢類線路的電腦供電我試聽過, 分析力冇咁強. 而細mother board又聽講冇大mother board咁靚聲. 不過我都想知多啲有關資料   

keroro2007

終於的起心肝去裝部Int204個driver.

因為我用Windows 8. 要攪一大輪先至可以裝倒個driver. 首先要喺佢個folder度搵個readme印出嚟跟住做一輪先至裝倒個driver.

keroro2007

播CD rip出來的44.1係同用CD Transport播差唔多. 呢點同預期一樣.  

在Jriver中係可以做到我理想中的DSD hardware down sampling的效果.

DSD files經咗Int204喺我部Invicta Mirus上係顯示得176.4

不過有個唔大唔細的問題: 每play到最後一首歌或關閉Jriver, 就會出"撻"一聲 咁樣好似有啲傷器材.
但用Audiogate就冇"撻"一聲呢個問題, 但用Audiogate又不能用hardware down sampling. 不過我個audiogate係short short地, 初頭係試過播倒DSD之後唔知點解最多去到192.

不幸中之大幸係部電腦可以同時支援兩個USB Interfaces, 即係話我如果買多條USB線就可以喺player度選擇直接去我部Invicta Mirus或去Int204.

david987156

記住試埋weiss psu , 是兩個世界

odysseyhk

"在Jriver中係可以做到我理想中的DSD hardware down sampling 的效果."

不明白這是甚麼. 可否多加解釋.  Thanks.

ok102006

keroro2007 發表於 2015-4-3 17:50
呢個係幾靚仔

不過冇我嗰個分得咁多份模組. 呢類線路的電腦供電我試聽過, 分析力冇咁強. 而細m ...

ok, some more info...

http://www.pinkfaun.nl/portal/pr ... io/1452-av-streamer

av or audio streamer from 荷蘭...
-linear ATX power supply + PC motherboard + up to four harddisk drives with internal NAS
-up to 24T storage
-passively cooled so no noise measured in full operation
-12-core CPU processor
-win8 + Jriver for audio streamer
-also comes with their I2S-bridge

hightlight is their own linear power supply (because other parts you can buy and mod directly)...
double LOW-B power transformers, pi-filters, schottkey diodes, and nano-crystaline coils

personally I would add a metal borad in the middle of the case to separate the power supply with the motherboard for better noise isolation.


I2S Bridge

diamondblack

ok102006 發表於 2015-4-4 00:35
ok, some more info...

http://www.pinkfaun.nl/portal/pr ... g-audio/1452-av-str ...

Passive cooling when all the components are packed so densely is a concern. There's no thought on improving the ventilation.

keroro2007

diamondblack 發表於 2015-4-4 01:15
Passive cooling when all the components are packed so densely is a concern. There's no thought on  ...

呢類Linear Power Supply如果設計得好係一啲都唔熱. 大陸嗰隻有朋友買咗係勁熱.   我嗰隻開過夜都係一啲都唔熱.

CPU嗰部份Fanless如果唔係擺喺密封環境都應該冇問題 i.e. 唔通風的櫃入面

keroro2007

odysseyhk 發表於 2015-4-3 23:47
"在Jriver中係可以做到我理想中的DSD hardware down sampling 的效果."

不明白這是甚麼. 可否多加解釋.  T ...

睇返我貼嗰兩張相. 播DSD時如果啪部INT204去176.4, 部DAC就會顯示176.4.

如果啪部INT204去88.2, 部DAC就會顯示88.2.

但喺Audiogate度播DSD, 佢電腦顯示192, 部INT204雖然最多得176.4, 部DAC都係顯示192.

karsonkwan

keroro2007 發表於 2015-4-3 00:34
因為位置的關係, 我選擇咗偉良機箱. Fit晒我個位. 暫時擺住先, 遲啲再諗吓點樣擺得更好.

其實我仲未得閒玩 ...

隻牛好似同我一樣....

keroro2007

david987156 發表於 2015-4-3 22:55
記住試埋weiss psu , 是兩個世界

我本身用開Nordost Valhalla 1 二代電源線. 之前俾我搵倒啲唔知真定假但聲底好似真的Valhalla 1線芯.

我隻LPS係唔錯的線路加埋用咗呢啲線芯做機內線同過機線兼用咗oyaide鍍金插. 其實如果我有多啲位的話, 我會選擇一個大少少的LPS機箱用隻大啲的牛再落埋M Cap添.   我估玩到盡都係兩千上下.  買原廠嗰隻五位數字咁貴我過唔倒心理關口

原廠個Power supply:

睇線路好聲的原因係佢用咗高速整流橋同埋line filter. 而其實......我嗰部都有

不過呢部喺我心目中只係後備嚟. 我期待個Oyaide插返貨做鋰電供電(雖然有師兄唔buy, 但我覺得會係各有所長)

頭先係咁意試咗唔同墊材較吓聲, 部Int204正式投入服務.

keroro2007

karsonkwan 發表於 2015-4-4 12:16
隻牛好似同我一樣....

個箱係一樣, 份電路我換咗

karsonkwan

咁師兄呢隻DDC係用黎downsample? 佢有得upsample PCM to DSD嗎？

diamondblack

keroro2007 發表於 2015-4-4 11:32
呢類Linear Power Supply如果設計得好係一啲都唔熱. 大陸嗰隻有朋友買咗係勁熱.   我嗰隻開過夜 ...

堆HDD...... 小心香港夏天上到40幾50度

keroro2007

karsonkwan 發表於 2015-4-4 12:33
咁師兄呢隻DDC係用黎downsample? 佢有得upsample PCM to DSD嗎？

類似啦! 不過唔係upsample. Upsampling以我理解係指將一段聲斬開好多份之後將每一份放大佢.

Int204係用Saracon(有software或hardware)再重新整理過段聲.

以下圖片係software Saracon.

http://www.weiss.ch/products/saracon

佢官網話the Super Audio Center recommends SARACON for DSD conversion.

但Super Audio Center應該只係其中一間做SACD的studio. 而佢Rentals and Services係冇提到Int204或任何Weiss的產品.

http://www.superaudiocenter.com/Services.htm

keroro2007

diamondblack 發表於 2015-4-4 13:16
堆HDD...... 小心香港夏天上到40幾50度

係喎  因為我用SSD所以冇諗過呢個問題添

keroro2007

再執過啲墊材, 終於攪到滿意

煲咗兩日, 好滿意佢的表現. 只係播由CD出來的44.1 files已經好過之前用top loading CD Transport

SACD DSD files點玩都係唔多自然, 可以放棄.

Saracon 好慶幸我冇理會講師同事的反對買咗呢部機.

karsonkwan

師兄個rack 上面透明個塊係亞加力膠板嗎？