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發表於 2011-11-7 00:44:23 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 skyjack 於 2011-11-7 00:54 編輯

香港應該無,香港有又大牌子我知有Gefen, 不過support到3D到$2000以上
我問過Anthem加拿大support有無splitter介紹, 佢叫我問香港代理, 話佢地應該有相關經驗同器材,不過我問過香港代理,佢地都係咩都無.....
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發表於 2011-11-7 14:54:20 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 KITCHAN 於 2011-11-7 14:55 編輯
rklpoon 發表於 2011-11-5 12:23
再唔係落多劑,驚毒佢唔死.

另外試左HDMI switch 出TV加投影机未,快d再俾個詳細報告. ...


買左呢隻hdmi switch 1 in 2 out即插即用
質素我覺得都ok
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-11-7 15:59:59 | 顯示全部樓層
skyjack 發表於 2011-11-7 00:44
香港應該無,香港有又大牌子我知有Gefen, 不過support到3D到$2000以上
我問過Anthem加拿大support有無spl ...

同意,上次e-mail Anthem 問HD Radio support HK version(應該唔得,姑且—試)都叫我問HK代理.Forward封e-mail都無下文.
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-11-7 16:22:46 | 顯示全部樓層
KITCHAN 發表於 2011-11-7 14:54
買左呢隻hdmi switch 1 in 2 out即插即用
質素我覺得都ok

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發表於 2011-11-7 16:37:41 | 顯示全部樓層
盒面咪印左lo
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-11-7 18:50:50 | 顯示全部樓層
KITCHAN 發表於 2011-11-7 16:37
盒面咪印左lo

老花走漏眼,$260抵玩bor.
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-11-7 21:45:33 | 顯示全部樓層
KITCHAN 發表於 2011-11-7 14:54
買左呢隻hdmi switch 1 in 2 out即插即用
質素我覺得都ok

你而家部Anthem firmware 係邊個version?
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發表於 2011-11-8 09:16:51 | 顯示全部樓層

Anthem Room Correction (ARC)

rklpoon 發表於 2011-11-7 21:45
你而家部Anthem firmware 係邊個version?

應該係V50.12


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 樓主| 發表於 2012-2-11 23:51:59 | 顯示全部樓層
Copied from AVS forum to keep the thread alive only, not in a position to translate it, enjoy.   

Room gain is defined by the Athena project at the National Research Council. Anthem used this research when producing ARC.


ARC, or Anthem Room Correction, has been a long time in coming. Its origins can be traced back as far as 1990 to research conducted at Canada's NRC (National Research Council). Under the supervision of Floyd Toole, the NRC had previously performed landmark research into loudspeaker performance. Statistical analysis of controlled listening tests showed that there was a common thread among speakers which subjectively “sound good”: in an anechoic chamber they were the ones which measured a neutral response, free of coloration. This research literally launched companies like Paradigm who, rather than vaguely poking at speaker design, now had a solid definition of what exactly made a good speaker "good".

On the heels of that research came the “Athena” project in 1990. Whereas the previous research looked at many different speakers, Athena looked at only a handful of speakers in many, many different rooms Here again, a common thread was found between what statistics showed to be good sounding rooms. I'll jump ahead just a bit and tell you that it is not what you'd think.

Armed with these data, the next step would be to create a system which could shape the speakers' response to get the system sounding more like the preferred rooms. It was only a matter of time, over 10 years actually, until DSP power in audio processors was up to the challenge, and a filtering system capable of the incredibly complex task could be put into play.

There are two concepts at work here. From some ARC literature:


“What ARC brings to the table is unique: its particular set of audio and room characteristics which their research has shown to be the most significant and “worth” fixing, as well as that what is not and is best left undone. One of the more tangible aspects of this is the concept of room gain, and is one of the target settings you have control over. Room gain is basically the amplitude boost any audio source (be it a speaker or even your own voice) gets in the upper mid-bass range from the boundaries of the room. Filter, or correct for this natural boost, and you end up with an unpleasant, dull sound because our ear-brain just “expects” room gain. ARC assumes you are not using poor speakers and thus when it sees a common “swell” in the frequency response of the measurements, considers that to be room-gain and, here is the key, does not target it for correction the way it does a room mode.”


The "other" concept of room gain has to do with the largest length of the room and its effect on sound pressure when the subwoofer’s radiated frequency is lower than the fundamental resonance of the room, and is distinct from boundary gain:

“The other type of gain is the pressure-vessel gain. Below a certain frequency the room no longer supports standing waves. When the wavelength is greater than the room dimensions, you get a uniform pressurization of the room. You get more gain as frequency decreases so it’s called "room gain". This is more apparent in small tightly sealed environments. Cars are a great example and the pressure vessel gain you get inside that environment is substantial. It occurs lower in frequency and to a lesser extent inside a room. Typical living spaces are not tightly sealed acoustic chambers and their construction varies, giving different results depending on the physical properties of the floor, wall, ceiling, etc… Boundaries that are sturdy and stiff (concrete) give more re-enforcement than does stick-built or flexible building materials that will absorb some of the energy. Think of the Three Little Pigs.”


ARC’s “room gain” will show up at the upper bass/lower mid frequencies. The “other” type of room gain (used throughout the industry) will show up at the low end of the subwoofer’s response chart. There are programs available that model this behavior, but since no room is ideally rigid and lets some sound pressure escape, it can be problematic. The original poster seemed to be puzzled by the room gain effects on his chart. I thought he might have assumed ARC’s “room gain” was the other type utilized in the industry.
      
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發表於 2012-2-17 17:36:07 | 顯示全部樓層
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 樓主| 發表於 2012-2-26 02:04:25 | 顯示全部樓層
chabo99 發表於 2012-2-17 17:36

Copy & paste啫
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發表於 2012-3-21 21:42:04 | 顯示全部樓層
hi ching, please advise if i manual set music and F/R speaker to full range, what is the different of Flat and 60, 80,100, 120 & 150. thank you.
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 樓主| 發表於 2012-3-21 22:04:16 | 顯示全部樓層
cherish 發表於 2012-3-21 21:42
hi ching, please advise if i manual set music and F/R speaker to full range, what is the different o ...

I think you should choose "flat" for setting F/R to full range, hence forget about other frequency x/o for non full range option. Please try and report back, 3q.
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發表於 2012-3-21 22:06:21 | 顯示全部樓層
Many thanks Ching, I will try and report back.
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 樓主| 發表於 2012-3-21 22:10:02 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 rklpoon 於 2012-3-21 22:12 編輯
rklpoon 發表於 2012-3-21 22:04
I think you should choose "flat" for setting F/R to full range, hence forget about other frequency ...


Further elaboration, the above setting assumes using no sub-woofer(2.0 only) for 2 channel music. If using sub woofer and the F/R only (2.1 speakers), then x/o frequency here is relevant and should be chosen according to your speaker ability. In short, flat --> no x/o.
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發表於 2012-3-21 22:10:28 | 顯示全部樓層
利害,看了page 1 的資料,好專業
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 樓主| 發表於 2012-3-21 22:54:32 | 顯示全部樓層
1o1o 發表於 2012-3-21 22:10
利害,看了page 1 的資料,好專業

3q, just copy, paste & translate, most of it.
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 樓主| 發表於 2012-3-21 22:58:33 | 顯示全部樓層
cherish 發表於 2012-3-21 21:42
hi ching, please advise if i manual set music and F/R speaker to full range, what is the different o ...

On second thought, you can also set the L/R speakers to full range under a 7.1 configuration/for watching movie and hence  the "bass part" of L/R would not pass to the subwoofer(except the .1 channel information). Pls correct me if I am wrong after your experiment.
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發表於 2012-3-22 07:21:35 | 顯示全部樓層
Very good information, Ching, will try today later.
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發表於 2012-3-22 23:21:00 | 顯示全部樓層
Ching, 已試過將arc set 去 music 剩係由前置出聲, 可能我隻speaker係書架, flat 好似冇咩bass, 如set 80, bass 就好番啲, 現在都是set番same as movie, 用2.1 聽歌, 感覺上係好啲。
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