越高級既器材, 需要用高級/高價線材才能發揮應有潛力嗎?

ncwah

racewong 發表於 2012-6-8 20:41
你就好啦！依家想搵對原廠valhalla 真係好難！

你唔係同占士兄有局咩,不過valhalla的確條一對好 出色的線材

racewong

ncwah 發表於 2012-6-8 20:46
你唔係同占士兄有局咩,不過valhalla的確條一對好 出色的線材

今晚臨時有事, 所以取消了...

tf1380

無茄，越頂班機解釋力越高，所以如果用D平線會原形畢露，D聲會好怪。無曬D靚機茄貴氣，
就似B仔部808甘，你找條平線給拒，包你乜B仔聲都無曬，但太貴茄線，線聲好有個性，有時會影響部機D聲，我認為買D皮半至2皮茄2手acapella銀線最抵玩，我換左2SET機啦，D線都無換過。

takyan

racewong 發表於 2012-6-8 20:41
你就好啦！依家想搵對原廠valhalla 真係好難！

添置有兩對,1m及1.5m xlr

racewong

takyan 發表於 2012-7-13 00:45
添置有兩對,1m及1.5m xlr

咁正?! 等我去睇睇先!

roychong

人外有人，天外有天，永無最好嫁喎，係睇你個人口味，貴又唔係一定好嘅，你身家多玩極都係面果浸咪可以無止境追求囖！

raywan

One Word --> "Matching"



You need to use reasonable grade of cables to match the gears so as to delivery expected / designed performance.



Expensive High-End Gears + Low Class Cables == No Good

Expensive High-End Cables + Low Class Gears == No Good



Matching your Budget

Matching your Expectation

ncwah

不能同意更多

RYAN

tf1380 發表於 2012-6-17 13:55
無茄，越頂班機解釋力越高，所以如果用D平線會原形畢露，D聲會好怪。無曬D靚機茄貴氣，
就似B仔部808甘，你 ...

我換左2SET機啦，D線都無換過*2

cvincent

tf1380 發表於 2012-6-17 13:55
無茄，越頂班機解釋力越高，所以如果用D平線會原形畢露，D聲會好怪。無曬D靚機茄貴氣，
就似B仔部808甘，你 ...

非常同意

nagramen

貴价定律:
貴机 + 貴線 = 超貴

racewong

nagramen 發表於 2013-6-29 09:39
貴价定律:
貴机 + 貴線 = 超貴

依個topic又被推起!

其實依個課題真係好值得大家討論一下.

CountDeMoney

小弟覺得這是資源分配問題. 最理想是器材線材兩者兼得. 但錢是有限的. 把資源投放到amp, speaker上長遠效果應較買貴線大.  不是說換線沒用, 而是寧願把有限錢儲起買更好的amp, speaker.

nagramen

diy cables so that more budget can be used to buy good equipment 就得啦! 电源線及speaker cables are easy to make without soldering

racewong

nagramen 發表於 2013-6-29 12:10
diy cables so that more budget can be used to buy good equipment 就得啦! 电源線及speaker cables are  ...

但眼見好多初燒友， 就係比DIY cable攪到衰聲到爆！

最慘係買左果D所謂既前輩高手既DIY野！ 衰左都無得放二手， 焗住硬食！

haha12

racewong 發表於 2013-6-30 17:11
但眼見好多初燒友， 就係比DIY cable攪到衰聲到爆！

最慘係買左果D所謂既前輩高手既DIY野！ 衰左都無得 ...

對鎗王兄的睇法很有同感，

絶非岐視DIY, 小弟亦是參與者，全是三、數百元的 studio 貨色 如 Belden , Gotham, Sommer, 取其聲音淡如水，然後再夾廠線在其它環節調聲(每個有品牌的廠線都有 signature sound, 越頂级聲音傾向越明顯）。這樣＂鷄＂的線不傷荷包，就算現在吾啱聽留一、兩條作後備都ok.

初入門的師兄欠缺實戰經驗，不容易判斷線材帶來是改變抑或改善而搞到氹氹轉換來換去，高價DIY cable 無論幾靚料二手價值偏弱，放進私人歷史博物館的機會較大。廠線放二手吾見少少還可當交學費。

nagramen

Before you have tried to use at least 6 sqmm pure silver wire per core for speaker cables and power cords, you do not understand the 魔力 of DIY.

If you buy factory cables of 6 sqmm per core of silver cable, you need to pay close to HK$100K.  

haha12

nagramen 發表於 2013-6-30 18:39
Before you have tried to use at least 6 sqmm pure silver wire per core for speaker cables and power  ...

Nagramen 兄說得對

如兄的經驗高手清楚自己的要求及方向DIY亦是好方案。 Happy Weekend!

CountDeMoney

個人來說小弟是不會考慮DIY的. 自己對線及物科零認識, 換燈膽已手震, 廁所壞只懂call人來. DIY交學費較買線可能更貴, 效果亦不會好

nagramen

However, DIY interconnects is not so easy because you need excellent soldering skills.  If lack of soldering skills, you should go for factory made interconnects la..

DIY power cables is very easy.  Second hand prices can hold quite well if you pick popular cables such as Acrolink, Sommer, WireWorld, AET, etc.  All you need to do is to fix plugs of your choice (for example, Wattgate, Furutech, Oyaide, etc).  But DIY is not cheap at all if you use good materials. Just my 2cents

Not all cables that I use are DIY cables.  For example, I do use factory made interconnects from CDP to Preamp and also Preamp to Power amp.  For power amp, I use factory made power cord.

For ground box, I am using Entreq Silver MiniMus with factory made silver cable with very impressive results.  When I have time, I will follow some c-hings' schematic to DIY a ground box to try try