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[請教] Chord解碼

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發表於 2017-7-16 10:30:30 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
边度有Chord解碼試聽(包括Hugo TT 及 Dave)? 謝!
發表於 2017-7-16 12:44:06 | 顯示全部樓層
DMA Wanchai
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發表於 2017-7-16 12:45:54 | 顯示全部樓層
You can demo with headphones only, i.e. no speakers
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發表於 2017-7-16 13:29:20 | 顯示全部樓層
Sabenza 發表於 2017-7-16 12:45
You can demo with headphones only, i.e. no speakers

Fair enough and good enough to find out the quality of the DAC given a ToTL HP.
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發表於 2017-7-16 13:47:15 | 顯示全部樓層
ECT SHOWROOM IN LAI CHI KOK
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 樓主| 發表於 2017-7-16 20:52:29 | 顯示全部樓層
Many thanks!
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發表於 2017-7-17 00:18:44 | 顯示全部樓層
黑布街好似有DAVE。
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發表於 2017-7-17 00:20:59 | 顯示全部樓層
Peter 兄:
唔好上TT,DAVE 啦(毒你,HeHe)。另外DAVE 可以upgrade。
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發表於 2017-7-17 09:11:12 | 顯示全部樓層
Difficult, if not possible for 99% of 師兄,to compare hifi music played by speaker & headphone.
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發表於 2017-7-17 10:12:47 | 顯示全部樓層
syhhiendy 發表於 2017-7-17 09:11
Difficult, if not possible for 99% of 師兄,to compare hifi music played by speaker & headphone. {:1 ...

如果只是想評估DAC 的digital to analogue 的能力,這個做法比用speakers 好,因為減少了downstream components 的問題。
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發表於 2017-7-17 11:14:40 | 顯示全部樓層
greenleo 發表於 2017-7-17 00:20
Peter 兄:
唔好上TT,DAVE 啦(毒你,HeHe)。另外DAVE 可以upgrade。

C hing,

What upgrade can Dave have?
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發表於 2017-7-17 11:31:41 | 顯示全部樓層
The MScaler.  The current one is the Blu2,some more is coming.
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 樓主| 發表於 2017-7-18 10:56:50 | 顯示全部樓層
greenleo 發表於 2017-7-17 00:20
Peter 兄:
唔好上TT,DAVE 啦(毒你,HeHe)。另外DAVE 可以upgrade。

Hi Leo, just went to ECT showroom at Lai Chi Kok yesterday. They said Dave is not available for trial due to send back to Factory for upgrade. I tried the Hugo TT with Head Fi. To me the SQ is not as good as Linn Streamer with similar price.

In fact, I am targeting a DAC of around HKD20k (second hand) (Only iff the SQ is so good to move me to a higher price DAC.) Do you think the DAVE 's SQ is justify to for this criteria? I have briefly tried Rockna Wave Dream DAC, Total DAC, MSB Analogue DAC, Weiss 501 and they did not move me to a higher price DAC.

Regarding future upgrade for DAVE, the M Scala apparently require huge Current (10 Amps) to run and that will affect the DAVE's performance. Do you think DAVE will be upgraded with the additional M Scala?

Do you have opinion using Professional DAC such as the Lynx Hilo DAC?


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發表於 2017-7-18 12:06:43 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 greenleo 於 2017-7-18 18:30 編輯
petermok387 發表於 2017-7-18 10:56
Hi Leo, just went to ECT showroom at Lai Chi Kok yesterday. They said Dave is not available for tr ...


"ECT showroom at Lai Chi Kok yesterday. They said Dave is not available for trial due to send back to Factory for upgrade"

I have never heard of the upgrade of DAVE and certainly don't know what ECT was talking about.

"M Scala apparently require huge Current (10 Amps) to run and that will affect the DAVE's performance. Do you think DAVE will be upgraded with the additional M Scala?"

The current MScaler and DAVE is a two-box solution.  Hence will not affect DAVE's performance.  Currently, the MScaler will not be integrated in to DAVE because of the noise according to Rob, the designer of DAVE.  I doubt it will in 3-year's time.  

"HKD20k"
DAVE is rarely in the 2nd hand market, retains high value, and ran real fast.  You're very lucky to find one and no way in 20k.  The last time I saw a new one in HK was probably in 黑布街.  I forgot the address.

"Total DAC, MSB Analogue "
The top model of Total should be comparable to DAVE and MSB analogue is certain to lose.  Your finding is not surprising.

"Do you think the DAVE 's SQ is justify to for this criteria?"
My old DAC was about 20k brand new.  I moved to DAVE with no regret so far.  Anytime it's on, any time I'm happy literally.  Now I use it as the DAC for the 機頂盒of my TV, stereo output, and the sound is great.  I certainly find the price totally justify.  Mind you, the genre you play affects the judgement a lot.  As you may have known, I like live concerts and musicals very much, and this is the area that DAVE excels.  For albums that different types of instruments are recorded individually and then mixed again, I GUESS a lesser DAC should do.  I'm not a classical music guy, so I'm not sure if my experience helps.  Anyway I'm told that DAVE excels when the music is complex.  Hence I guess that DAVE is good for classical as well.

No experience, hence no opinion for Lynx Hill DAC.

Finally, I find not much DAVE, or Chord, users in Hiendy(I could be wrong).  May be you'd better to ask in foreign forums as well where the spectrum of the forum members are much wider.  Do an audition preferable by HP first.  The setting of the preamp, amp and the room may affect your judgment.  Hence I would like to eliminate these first.  You may use the built-in cross feed function of DAVE.  That should give you a glimpse of how it sounds through speakers.  My speakers, due to the constraints of the room, does not sound as good as my HP and it won't change unless I buy another house, LOL.

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發表於 2017-7-18 12:34:13 | 顯示全部樓層
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 樓主| 發表於 2017-7-18 18:25:03 | 顯示全部樓層
greenleo 發表於 2017-7-18 12:06
"ECT showroom at Lai Chi Kok yesterday. They said Dave is not available for trial due to send back ...

Hi Leo, thanks for your inputs. Will try to listen to the Dave dac seriously.

Just see that Review 33 have second hand posts for Hugo TT at 17k and Dave at 60k.
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發表於 2017-7-18 18:28:40 | 顯示全部樓層
petermok387 發表於 2017-7-18 18:25
Hi Leo, thanks for your inputs. Will try to listen to the Dave dac seriously.

Just see that Revi ...

Hi Peter,
You're welcome.
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發表於 2017-7-18 21:00:23 | 顯示全部樓層
Hello Ching,

I am a Dave user and very interesting in the MScaler technology too; may place order for Blu 2 but want to get the Davina more.
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發表於 2017-7-18 21:36:54 | 顯示全部樓層
Samuelt 發表於 2017-7-18 21:00
Hello Ching,

I am a Dave user and very interesting in the MScaler technology too; may place order f ...

One more DAVE user, great!  Please tell Peter what you think about DAVE.

The Blu 2 is ready but the Davina may not be available till next year.  I'm waiting for a MScaler only version, he he.
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發表於 2017-7-18 21:49:01 | 顯示全部樓層
Me too, I am a Dave user and intend to purchase Blu2 (M scaler), which will then have 1 million taps, and as I understand, Dave + Blu2 is the closest high-end technology to reconstruct the original music file.
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