Entreq 農夫同好會

rogers910

一陣上張圖，之後比較三者

分別是:Challenger，GOLD Eclipse 6(Platinum未借到)，LPZ

先說說其實三者風格和表達方式都很不同，唯一共同點是三者在同價位中素質是比較高的

如加上Platinum Eclipse的話，就是三萬內級別IC比較了

我個人三者都很喜歡，可惜如三者都入手價就很金

rogers910

一陣上張圖，之後比較三者

分別是:Challenger，GOLD Eclipse 6(Platinum未借到)，LPZ

先說說其實三者風格 ...
rogers910 發表於 2011-10-30 19:05

   

Kraftwerk2

I am also using Challenger 2010 version power chord



with AC wraps

rogers910

GOLD Eclipse 6　聲音乾淨，結像清晰，動態大，瞬態好，低頻霸氣下潛得深，沉

wireworld的聲音個人覺得擁有，美式的激情而又能做到中性中庸

素質方面：其實以前就比較CRADAS CLEAR，KONDO VZII，TaraLabs The ONE LE等

GOLD Eclipse 6素質是比較高的，特別在動態，清晰度，低頻方面

以上三者很難和wireworld相提並論　

GOLD Eclipse 6雖然是個強手，但面對Challenger和LPZ這不同檔次不同級數的高手

要越級挑戰是很難的，第一大分別是頻寛上相差很遠

第二大分別是去到高手級鬥的巳不是素質，而是意境，去到這級數的素質已不是大問題，如何令聲音更自然流暢

感動久聽不累才是重點，而LPZ能做到聽者柔情如夢中的意境

我有朋友擁有IC素質頻寛檔次比LPZ更高，但他聽了LPZ後也大贊

我也很佩服KONDO的

Smarties

I am also using Challenger 2010 version power chord



with AC wraps
Kraftwerk2 發表於 2011-11-1 15:18

    Ching, can you please tell us the performance of it?

Many Thanks

Smarties

Any update?

Kraftwerk2

Smarties 發表於 2011-11-5 10:12
Any update?

Sorry for the late reply, just return from BJ. I put the Challenger with the Fisch distribution block to support the CDP and pre amp. It sounds quite neutral without changing the tonal balance nor the speed. Tried to connect it with my pre amp but I prefer some flavour, so end up using Yter instead of the Challenger. About the AC wrap, in the retailer's shop where he connected his CDP to the wall directly, I could hear a more silent background and cleaner sound but the effect is less significant as I am wrapping it over the power chord to the wall of my 2 power distribution blocks. After all the sound I am hearing is the total sum of all the ingridients, not very easy to isolate the contribution by sum-of-parts methods.

Smarties

Kraftwerk2 發表於 2011-11-7 21:23
Sorry for the late reply, just return from BJ. I put the Challenger with the Fisch distribution bl ...

Thank you for you comment.

So would you describe Challenger reproduce everything (high/mid/low) naturally without emphasing any particular tonal range?

I'm looking for a pc to improve mid/low of my new system , which is very analytical and good at high but not enough in mid/low. Do you think challenger suit my needs?


Many thanks.

Kraftwerk2

Smarties 發表於 2011-11-7 23:08
Thank you for you comment.

So would you describe Challenger reproduce everything (high/mid/low) n ...

I think bass weight is not the strength of the Challenger. Also my speaker is still in the burn in process, so the bass is relatively polite and my tube amp 20W won't be able to deliver a strong bass as a 100W SS amp. BTW, is changing IC another route or using accessories like graphite cubes under the speaker/CDP or FE ceraball?  

Smarties

Kraftwerk2 發表於 2011-11-7 23:35
I think bass weight is not the strength of the Challenger. Also my speaker is still in the burn in ...

Vib Eaters help. I bought a pair a few weeks ago and put them on my speakers. The overall density improves immediately. Mid becomes more dense and low sounds more punchy. They work amazingly.
I've auditioned Konstaintin at MK (A/B test with my PC that I brought along). The overall density is higher by comparison i.e. mid tone improves a bit (meatier). That's why I would like to give challenger a trial.

rogers910

KONDO LPZ 聲音柔情如夢中，棉密，絲一般的順滑自然幼細，高低頻延伸好
Entreq Challenger(煲了約200小時) 聲音鮮活，天然，純正，開揚

Challenge論清晰度，活生感會比LPZ 更好，兩者高頻都很好，Challenge有點甘甜
LPZ就絲滑，中頻方面LPZ會厚一些和內臉些，Challenge就簿一些，主動些
低頻方面Challenge會彈性比較好，速度快點，爽一些，LPZ就下潛得深，沉些
LPZ的音樂連貫性和細膩度也較Challenge好點
音場規模兩者差不多
結論是:各有各好，看個人喜好和器材撘配而定吧

cheungtm

Any one tried CleanUs

Jerjer

racewong 發表於 2011-10-19 14:53
喺我屋企套組合唔係咁明顯, 大約好左3-5%, 主要都因為背景寧靜左, 令到音場更立體, 全頻線條實淨左!

不 ...

Did you compare Tellus and Minius

Jerjer

COZ the Minius is much much cheaper

racewong

Jerjer 發表於 2011-12-20 20:36
Did you compare Tellus and Minius

我接受不了佢個outlook，所以玩左兩個星期就賣了

Jerjer

racewong 發表於 2011-12-20 21:03
我接受不了佢個outlook，所以玩左兩個星期就賣了

But how about the performance in these two weeks ar

Jerjer

racewong 發表於 2011-12-20 21:03
我接受不了佢個outlook，所以玩左兩個星期就賣了

Worth to buy except the outlook

racewong

rogers910 發表於 2011-11-9 23:18
KONDO LPZ 聲音柔情如夢中，棉密，絲一般的順滑自然幼細，高低頻延伸好
Entreq Challenger(煲了約200小時)  ...

ROGER兄, 好正既REPORT呀!

野菌白汁

請問邊度可以試 ENTREQ 既產品？

mpv

請問C Hing們有冇試過用二個細盒分別比丅丅及Amp加CDP好，定係一個大地盒接曬所有嘢好!?
Thanks