二選一 :入門級CDP的選擇Esoteric vs Burmester(最後結果on Page 4)

mpv

Burmester 052 vs Esoteric X-05

racewong

幾多錢BUDGET?!

Kraftwerk2

If U R using Symphonic Line RG 14 (I guess), it is a good idea to use the matching Symphonic Line Vibrato CDP. If the picture is not your system, prefer Burmester or SL Vibrato to Esoteric.

Comments from Taiwan:

在德國製的擴大機中，Symphonic Line以聲音柔美悅耳著稱，比起其他品牌的德國擴大機，Symphonic Line最具有陰柔的美感，好像教養良好的德國女性，或許沒有德國男人那麼搶鋒頭，但是比起內涵來可是不惶多讓。

Despite the above comment is about SL amplifier, their CDP exhibit similar characteristics.

mpv

racewong 發表於 2012-6-24 10:41
幾多錢BUDGET?!

其實二部都買咗，只係諗唔放走邊部。 想信二手價相差約10%(052 vs X05+OCX), 自己覺得各有所長，不過好很定部Esoteric一定要加clock先有得同部052揪，所以價錢十分接近.

racewong

mpv 發表於 2012-6-24 11:14
其實二部都買咗，只係諗唔放走邊部。 想信二手價相差約10%(052 vs X05+OCX), 自己覺得各有所長，不過好 ...

咁咪留番部X05囉.

遲D有D錢再UPGRADE去K03 / K-01...

racewong

mpv 發表於 2012-6-24 11:14
其實二部都買咗，只係諗唔放走邊部。 想信二手價相差約10%(052 vs X05+OCX), 自己覺得各有所長，不過好 ...

如果你未買既話, 我一定會叫你搵部二手EMMLABS玩.

不過如果你中左ESO毒, 咁就唯有向著K-01進發了.

mpv

Kraftwerk2 發表於 2012-6-24 10:51
If U R using Symphonic Line RG 14 (I guess), it is a good idea to use the matching Symphonic Line Vi ...

C兄對Symphonic Line 的形容可為身同感受，一部d個價位嘅合併級真係抵到冇嘢講.......原本想成套Burmester玩，聽過Flatship 合併032後，發覺唔係自己杯Tea....所以家下十五十六。

Symphonic Line CDP全新 好貴，香港，謂代理又冇機試又定價超貴，二手又少，所以冇研究，可否分享多一點SL CDP的型號定位及取向。

CeLicA

想問Eso X05同BM 052的取向,表達方面不同之處?

mpv

racewong 發表於 2012-6-24 11:27
如果你未買既話, 我一定會叫你搵部二手EMMLABS玩.

不過如果你中左ESO毒, 咁就唯有向著K-01進發了. ...

不可"一",不可再，向毒品說不

K01在朋友家聽過，十幾個真係有好多選擇..........真係咁多budget

EMMLABS 我都想玩，但好多舊件都冇零件冇得整.........

racewong

CeLicA 發表於 2012-6-24 11:37
想問Eso X05同BM 052的取向,表達方面不同之處?

你咪用緊X05囉..

係喎, 你部X05 加左CLOCK未?

mpv

加咗OCX嘅Eso好掂，所以先更加十五十六，唔知放邊set

CeLicA

racewong 發表於 2012-6-24 11:49
你咪用緊X05囉..

係喎, 你部X05 加左CLOCK未?

未搵到clock,所以成日約人都遲到.
我都係8下同價位CDP取向上的不同.

racewong

CeLicA 發表於 2012-6-24 11:52
未搵到clock,所以成日約人都遲到.
我都係8下同價位CDP取向上的不同.  ...

不過我都係覺得攪左對喇叭先比較好D.

mpv

CeLicA 發表於 2012-6-24 11:37
想問Eso X05同BM 052的取向,表達方面不同之處?

今晚report給你.....

CeLicA

racewong 發表於 2012-6-24 11:55
不過我都係覺得攪左對喇叭先比較好D.

如果攪隻Speaker要攪攪間屋先.

CeLicA

mpv 發表於 2012-6-24 11:59
今晚report給你.....

Kraftwerk2

mpv 發表於 2012-6-24 11:34
C兄對Symphonic Line 的形容可為身同感受，一部d個價位嘅合併級真係抵到冇嘢講.......原本想成套Burmeste ...

SL sounds warm, rich and more human for me compared with other German CDP I listened before. The designer is a big fan of analogue source. I think SL's sound belongs to MBL, Trigon or Lindemann type of sound.

Vibrato CDP


The designer's focus is not on driver, no fancy CDM Pro 12 or VDRS...., it is still 24/96, HDCD. Well I'm not an electronic guru. Here are some introduction of its products

http://www.sgaudio.com.cn/bbs/vi ... ;page=1&tid=398

Factory visit

http://www.fshifi.cn/newsmore.aspx?id=141

http://www.fshifi.cn/newsmore.aspx?id=271

Regarding models, they share the same chassis, one step ahead is Der CDP with ext PSU, next model is Ref Mk II with bigger out board transformer & improved clock. The latest top range is Belcanto featuring even bigger transformer and I guess further improvement in analogue output stage.

Der CD player


Reference Mk II


Belcanto CDP

藤原拓海

兩部比
觀賞，B 仔夾d

w4waiki

Mpv hing, may be consider higher grade sl cd player
Sure match with sl amp

Kraftwerk2

mpv 發表於 2012-6-24 11:34
C兄對Symphonic Line 的形容可為身同感受，一部d個價位嘅合併級真係抵到冇嘢講.......原本想成套Burmeste ...

You could check out the old dealer shops in Tim Chi and Yau Shing who sell Audio Physic. Some months ago saw the display SL Vibrato or Der CD player/Ref Mk II in Aranya finish. They should sell it at a discount.