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發表於 2012-2-5 17:52:32 | 顯示全部樓層
Butler 發表於 2012-2-5 16:03
差十倍有多。

吓?爭咁遠?
原廠Din to RCA,小的唔知幾錢,不過上年在代理買過條SNAIC來駁supercap,唔駛2K。咁如果買Din to Rca,都應該唔會太貴掛,因為見數字台之前有人放二手Chord既Din to RCA,都要$7xx........
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發表於 2012-2-5 18:23:47 | 顯示全部樓層
LEGO 發表於 2012-2-5 17:52
吓?爭咁遠?  
原廠Din to RCA,小的唔知幾錢,不過上年在代理買過條SNAIC來駁supercap,唔駛2 ...

我聽朋友講$7k 左近

最大擭係佢話話同chord 差唔多

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發表於 2012-2-5 20:09:29 | 顯示全部樓層
Butler 發表於 2012-2-5 18:23
我聽朋友講$7k 左近

最大擭係佢話話同chord 差唔多

$7k,會唔會講緊Hi-Line? 應該唔會咁貴掛?
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發表於 2012-2-5 20:32:35 | 顯示全部樓層
LEGO 發表於 2012-2-5 20:09
$7k,會唔會講緊Hi-Line? 應該唔會咁貴掛?

係 Hi-Line.
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發表於 2012-2-5 20:52:52 | 顯示全部樓層
Butler 發表於 2012-2-5 20:32
係 Hi-Line.

um.....如果係Hi-Line,效果應該不會只係同Chord差不多掛.....不過小弟未聽過不能作準,兄要搵來A/B比較吓了。
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發表於 2012-2-6 18:22:25 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi all, been a Naim user for a long time and my current set up:

CAS (Mac Mini + Pure Audio) > Naim DAC (Powerline) > HiLine > 282 (Dual Hi cap with NAPSC) > 250

Wonder any c hing try change the fuse at the IEC side of Naim and any good feedback?
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發表於 2012-2-6 19:19:43 | 顯示全部樓層
willip 發表於 2012-2-6 18:22
Hi all, been a Naim user for a long time and my current set up:

CAS (Mac Mini + Pure Audio) > Naim  ...

Hi,

Your source is similiar to me, which is also use Mac mini as transport.  May I know how you connect your Mac to ndac?

I am currently using MF vlink 192 between the Mac and naim.

Anyway, have you compared the Mac with other network server from naim?

Thanks.
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發表於 2012-2-7 09:32:21 | 顯示全部樓層
I am using the M2Tech USB to BNC interface and thru DC1 to nDac.  Haven't compared the Naim network source.

I have compared Pure Music and Amarrera and finally chose Pure Music.
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發表於 2012-2-8 13:33:49 | 顯示全部樓層
LEGO 發表於 2012-2-5 20:52
um.....如果係Hi-Line,效果應該不會只係同Chord差不多掛.....不過小弟未聽過不能作準,兄要搵來A/B比較 ...

CHing, how do you like your Naim CD source?  I also use AP Tempo 25 speaker.  Thanks for your views
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發表於 2012-2-8 20:31:47 | 顯示全部樓層
tempo25_2011 發表於 2012-2-8 13:33
CHing, how do you like your Naim CD source?  I also use AP Tempo 25 speaker.  Thanks for your view ...

CDS3,小弟既感覺係:
1. 音樂感強、濃郁但唔過厚
2. 較lay back及conservative,聽得好relax


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發表於 2012-2-11 18:10:39 | 顯示全部樓層
想問問各naimee,用緊幾多M既NAC A5?
naim forum上見用長啲NAC A5,效果好過最低要求既3.5M。
有冇師兄比較過呢?
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發表於 2012-2-17 18:10:19 | 顯示全部樓層
想問吓各位naim 友,
依家Source用緊 CD5XS + Teddy cap.
想加d 分析力同密度, 加nDac 定上 CDX2 好?

己用 hiline > 202+ NAPSC> 200 + HICAP
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發表於 2012-2-18 12:27:05 | 顯示全部樓層
muse 發表於 2012-2-17 18:10
想問吓各位naim 友,
依家Source用緊 CD5XS + Teddy cap.
想加d 分析力同密度, 加nDac 定上 CDX2 好?

小弟之前由CD5X+Flatcap2X 上 CDX2+XPS2,聲音密度、動態及分析力有顯著提升,聽古典好正,相對地反覺得Cd5X偏濃了點。
小弟未試用過NDAC,俾唔到意見muse兄......
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發表於 2012-2-18 21:34:19 | 顯示全部樓層
THANKS, 但係cdx2 + xps2 真係大upgrade 喎。。。
想upgrade吓個source,銀根有限,都係諗加nDac 定上bare CDX2咋。。。XPS2 呢d真係未敢諗。。。
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發表於 2012-2-18 23:42:05 | 顯示全部樓層
muse 發表於 2012-2-18 21:34
THANKS, 但係cdx2 + xps2 真係大upgrade 喎。。。
想upgrade吓個source,銀根有限,都係諗加nDac 定上ba ...

其實上bare CDX2,所講既密度、分析力,已比Cd5X有大躍進。只論古典,控制力一定ko CD5X,不過論人聲,會比CD5X淡番少少,畢竟CD5X係比較重味既。不過並不是說CDX2在人聲上不行,佢既所謂淡,只是相對CD5X而已。加XPS2當然錦上添花,控制力再好啲、順啲滑啲,不過可以不一步先啦。
至於CD5XS+nDAC係點,小的未聽過呢個組合,所以說不準,不過有其他師兄同bare CDX2比較過,話prefer前者,muse兄可比較吓邊個組合係自己杯茶了。

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發表於 2012-2-22 17:32:12 | 顯示全部樓層
muse 發表於 2012-2-18 21:34
THANKS, 但係cdx2 + xps2 真係大upgrade 喎。。。
想upgrade吓個source,銀根有限,都係諗加nDac 定上ba ...

Hi Ching, 小弟係cd5xs+ndac+teddy xps用家, 小第之前曾經試過:
1.cd5xs
2.cdx2
3.cd5xs + ndac
4.cdx2 + ndac
感覺係4>3>2>1(4.勝3.其實唔係差太多)
另外,ching你可以從官網見到, cdx2建議升級其中係加ndac, 所以以ching你現在情況, 加ndac升級都好正路
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發表於 2012-2-23 12:16:48 | 顯示全部樓層
轉載自UK absolute sound

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The tale was under embargo until today, but at the beginning of the week Naim Audio launched its new flagship streamer, the £6,250 Naim Audio NDS. It will be shown to the public for the first time at timed, closed room demonstrations at the Bristol Sound & Vision show in the West of England at the end of this week. A handful of invited journalists had a briefing and preview at Naim's Salisbury HQ.

The new NDS has been designed to improve substantially on Naim's existing NDX network player, using cost-no object technologies hewn from the company's 500-Series. This includes no built-in power supply; the user can choose anything from the comparitively inexpensive XP5 XS power supply right up to one or even a pair of 555 PS supplies, because the supply feeds can be split into separate analog and digital feeds, each driven from its own power supply using the large Burndy PSU cable.

The digital and analog boards are split and also resting on individual suspended brass sub-chassis, each with a 4Hz resonance designed to maximise mechanical isolation. Unlike the previous NDS, the data buffering is now performed in-chip rather than in RAM, and this has meant a reworking of the DSP algorithm and lowering the chip's power draw in the process.

Moving forward into the past, the NDS calls upon the Burr-Brown PCM1704 'sign-magnitude' digital converter chip, which is an expensive and relatively rare chip from the late 1990s, highly prized by DAC designers in part for its 120dB dynamic range. The custom code in the NDS' SHARC chip gives the streamer 16x oversampling IIR modified Butterworth filter, using 40-bit, floating point processing. The streaming section of the NDS is fully screened, and of course the master clock has vanishingly low jitter.

An extensive technical briefing paper and a press conference with a lot of engineer face-time (a rare thing in press conferences these days) demonstrate just how sure Naim is of its new NDS. With it comes the promise of additional functionality to the Naim app family, including (at last!) playlists. Track scrubbing (fast foward and reverse) is still in the development stages, because the protocols that apply to one format do not apply to others, and a robust method of track scrubbing is still illusive across computer audio. AirPlay is also not included on the Naim platform at this time.

Following the lengthy presentation, the invited audience were given a chance to listen and compare the new NDS (with a 555PS) to an NDX with a XPS power supply and even a ND5 XS with a XP5 XS power supply (the power supplies are optional upgrades on the NDX and ND5 XS). The three streamers were played through a 500 Series system, including three 500 power amplifiers and an active crossover driving Naim's Ovator S-600. The total cost of this system... a lot! Even the NDS combination on its own was close to £12,000.

Nevertheless, two things emerged from the demonstration. First, active drive really puts those Ovator S-600 into a different league. Second, each successive step in the streamers. Although the basic model sounded extremely good on its own, moving up the Naim rungs made significant improvements in performance. The move from the already highly respected NDX to the NDS (playing a Richard Thompson track) gave voices greater body, more natural presentation and vocal clarity, and greater life to the already lively sounding guitar sound. The NDX was already extremely natural and enjoyable, but this raised the game still further.

How much further... you'll just have to wait and see. Fortunately, Hi-Fi Plus has secured an exclusive review of the NDS later in the year.
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發表於 2012-2-23 12:22:49 | 顯示全部樓層
LEGO 發表於 2012-2-11 18:10
想問問各naimee,用緊幾多M既NAC A5?
naim forum上見用長啲NAC A5,效果好過最低要求既3.5M。
有冇師兄比較 ...

見外國討論話5m 好聲過 3.5m, 所以當時我問代理借過對 5m vs 3.5m 反覆測試

結果係唔覺有分別, 可能我器材低班關係啦...

但有時陰謀論咁諗, 都覺得係佢地想買長d SC 賺多少少...

btw雖然我呢一刻暫時無naim係屋企, 但心都仲係naimee, 所以答下嗲

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發表於 2012-2-23 13:43:50 | 顯示全部樓層
nan7yo 發表於 2012-2-23 12:22
見外國討論話5m 好聲過 3.5m, 所以當時我問代理借過對 5m vs 3.5m 反覆測試  

結果係唔覺有分 ...

海浪兄,你手中無naim,心中有naim!! haha........
睇naim forum嗰面話6M - 8M效果幾好....搵日去大理度測試吓先。
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發表於 2012-2-23 14:04:45 | 顯示全部樓層
LEGO 發表於 2012-2-23 13:43
海浪兄,你手中無naim,心中有naim!! haha........
睇naim forum嗰面話6M - 8M效果幾好....搵 ...

Lego見笑啦~  

我乜加陣越UP越長去到6-8M啦  

但我成日"形"住Naim會出新既高一個grade既喇叭線, 又可以賣貴d  
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