北極鷗DDC+供電器+雙頭USB

momei

Just a quick note to share about the virtues of this DDC.
I got it this morning. No problem recognizing it by MIDI as I use a MacBook Pro.
I must say it is extremely GOOD VALUE!!
Initially, the right channel was a little softer and the sound was somehow recessed. I thought it was 大鑊 for me because if the absolute phase is inverted, I have to invert all my tracks as I do not have a inverter switch in my gears.
Fortunately this DDC soon partnered well with my DAC and Mac algorithms and marched straight into performance after 10 to 12 tracks.
In terms of the dozen yardsticks I use to evaluate components, this DDC outperforms my existing one that complements my DAC as a set. I would not go into details here because this is not intended to be a review. In my opinion it would still be "purchasable" if set at 2 to 3 times the price!! And I guess it will be when it gets reviews from western webs or magazines; just like HifiMan products in recent years.
Partnering with my DAC and Mac, I would say the set should be equal to even if not sounding better than famous DACs costing HK$30,000 to 60,000. I stand ready to PK it with DACs of that price level or higher.
I have two issues to mention. The volume setting only has single steps whereas my exiting DDC has half step that enables finer left and right balance tuning.
The impact and punch is softer than my existing one but I hope it will be on a par after run in for a week or more.

liclic

Waiting for your report

obee

不錯的分享，之前有師兄話它低音實同收得緊，但師兄的是相反的說法，可能跟試玩的有些改動或是不同系統有不同聽感

corolladv

Good, 好正面評價。

momei

obee 發表於 2013-8-24 16:19
不錯的分享，之前有師兄話它低音實同收得緊，但師兄的是相反的說法，可能跟試玩的有些改動或是不同系統有不 ...

先謝Obee的介紹和安排，使我能買到這部靚聲DDC。
我的系統:
http://58.64.141.200/hififorum/f ... id%3D3%26typeid%3D3

kin1111kin

我覺得它聲音密度高，但不夠鬆弛和大氣，有點緊，聲場和分析力也可以，起碼沒有明顯数碼味，以價論貨超值，但如能有增強板改善以上缺點就更好了！現在和聲咭數碼輸出仍有距離
另外為什麼不會像聲咭般能直出不經window控制音量

momei

kin1111kin 發表於 2013-8-24 18:30
我覺得它聲音密度高，但不夠鬆弛和大氣，有點緊，聲場和分析力也可以，起碼沒有明顯数碼味，以價論貨超值， ...

"""不夠鬆弛，有點緊"""
初時我都覺有些緊(strained)，但煲了一個下午，完全沒有了，反而比較我用開的更柔和(smooth without edges)。
至於"大氣"，我不知道是指什麼。
現在這DDC在我處聽大交響樂時做出的音塲是6呎深，16呎濶，樂手的數目較前多了。聽獨奏時中間的結像也較實浄和縮小。A

obee

kin1111kin 發表於 2013-8-24 18:30
我覺得它聲音密度高，但不夠鬆弛和大氣，有點緊，聲場和分析力也可以，起碼沒有明顯数碼味，以價論貨超值， ...

另外為什麼不會像聲咭般能直出不經window控制音量

我未玩Windows CAS (只是數年前用Windows XP 玩過 foobar), 但好像是ASIO 就不經 Window控制音量, directX 才會, 是不是你用的音效API選擇有錯? 如果經了 Windows 的 mixer 會劣化了音色的.

kin1111kin

但現在北極鷗就是能在window控制音量,就算ASIO也一樣,何解?請問如何設定
另外用hiface rca2也同樣在window可控制音量,是否同樣是蕊片問題,根本就不是真正ASIO
經今日煲機放工回來發覺聲音明顯比昨晚柔和,有所改善,遲點待聲音穩定後切份穩壓電源供電,看看又有何提升

RX78

momei 發表於 2013-8-24 18:25
先謝Obee的介紹和安排，使我能買到這部靚聲DDC。
我的系統:
http://58.64.141.200/hififorum/forum.php?m ...

momei hing: 我今天都訂購左部北極鷗DDC，請問你用什麼DAC?  在你之前的帖子好像看不到？Thanks!

momei

RX78 發表於 2013-8-24 22:02
momei hing: 我今天都訂購左部北極鷗DDC，請問你用什麼DAC?  在你之前的帖子好像看不到？Thanks! ...

RX78 C-Hing,
I use a DAC from Style Audio, the specifications of which are totally out of date now. The one suggested in another thread that uses two ESS 9018 from China holds promises for better sound.
I have speculated views that OS X of Apple (engineers consider this to be absurd or even insane) progressively aligns with algorithms of DDC and DAC and even the ADC used to encode recordings in the first place.
So if you use an Apple computer and has Mountain Lion OS X (or Snow Leopard will do as well), it will progressively align with the 北極鷗 DDC and your DAC and gradually gives you improvements in sound.

obee

momei 發表於 2013-8-25 07:11
RX78 C-Hing,
I use a DAC from Style Audio, the specifications of which are totally out of date now ...

"progressively align"? That's really crazy.

cwtim01

momei 發表於 2013-8-25 07:11
RX78 C-Hing,
I use a DAC from Style Audio, the specifications of which are totally out of date now ...

The dual 9018 China DAC you referred to is using an internal Amanero DDC, another reputed DDC for price/performance and is unlikely to benefit from北極鷗 (I have both DDCs). 北極鷗 will be better suited to the cases where you don't already have a good USB interface with your DAC.

momei

cwtim01 發表於 2013-8-25 11:31
The dual 9018 China DAC you referred to is using an internal Amanero DDC, another reputed DDC for  ...

cwtim01兄，
明白。是我的平嘢 DAC 才受惠。

cwtim01

momei 發表於 2013-8-25 11:43
cwtim01兄，
明白。是我的平嘢 DAC 才受惠。

小弟所用的DAC只是內地品牌，並非貴野。

原只想在forum以事論事，若有冒犯，謹此致歉 。

momei

cwtim01 發表於 2013-8-25 12:18
小弟所用的DAC只是內地品牌，並非貴野。

原只想在forum以事論事，若有冒犯，謹此致歉 。

cwtim01 兄,
請不要誤會，完全沒有冒犯，只是我寫得不好而已。寫中文要寫很多次電腦才將字認出來，所以盡量簡短。
我亦贊同用高性價比產品，覺得很多名牌都是給喜歡虛名的人買的，成本用在推廣上，例如包食宿機票請評論員往參觀，又在雜誌大賣廣告等。

JeffZhu

很高兴momei兄能够喜欢

momei

Jeff 兄，
你的DDC真的很好聲，並無虛言。如果全是你自己開發而不是左抄右抄的，就非常佩服你的功力。
用我的電腦和DAC+你的DDC，我很有信心與HK$30,000~60,000的DAC作直接比拼。希望有這些㰄主願意拿機出來，用HK$60,000以上的CD機也可以啊!

JeffZhu

momei 發表於 2013-8-25 15:13
Jeff 兄，
你的DDC真的很好聲，並無虛言。如果全是你自己開發而不是左抄右抄的，就非常佩服你的功力。
用我 ...

过奖了。我还是比较坚持我自己的理念，所以我开发的东西都会有些我个人的色彩在里面，这样对我来说更有乐趣，更不会去抄袭别人，因为我还不是完全的商人，更多的是自己玩的开心，所以能够得到你们的肯定的话，我就更有动力了

momei

Jeff 兄，
原來這DDC基本上是你自家開發的，可喜可賀。
希望你下一個項目是DAC, 要可處理352.8 和 384 又或是32 bit 啊