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[CAS] Apple charges a 30% fee to streaming services for every iOS customer?

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發表於 2015-7-23 15:05:05 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
發表於 2015-7-23 15:20:47 | 顯示全部樓層
I think the article just mixed all things up. Apple charges 30% revenue share on all apps. The other streaming service providers just bumped up their prices so that the cut, which I think is fair when one is using Apple App Store as a distribution channel,  is shifted almost entirely to those customers subscribing via Apple App Store, while the same customer can get the service at $3 less subscribing directly from the streaming provider's website.

I don't see anything evil on Apple's part. The platform is not free.
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 樓主| 發表於 2015-7-23 15:33:10 | 顯示全部樓層
diamondblack 發表於 2015-7-23 15:20
I think the article just mixed all things up. Apple charges 30% revenue share on all apps. The other ...


" ... these same streaming services cannot point out on the Apple App Store that you can get their service for $9.99/mo if you just buy direct. Nor can they include a link to their respective websites, offer a free promo (Apple Music does), or a family plan (Apple Music does) according to Apple's App Store guidelines. Is this fair? ..."
http://www.audiostream.com/conte ... iMtzUfy35r7rGBfU.97
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發表於 2015-7-23 15:51:30 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung 發表於 2015-7-23 15:33
" ... these same streaming services cannot point out on the Apple App Store that you can get their ...

Well, use android phones then.

It's just the same as Café de Carol charging more at Cheung Kong Center than the other outlet 10 minutes foot distance away for the same food, or Maxim's charging more at Simply Life than at MX for the same dish of BBQ pork rice. I don't really see why people makes a fuss about this.
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 樓主| 發表於 2015-7-23 16:08:32 | 顯示全部樓層
diamondblack 發表於 2015-7-23 15:51
Well, use android phones then.

It's just the same as Café de Carol charging more at Cheung Kong ...

Apple, Café de Carol, Wellcome/PARKnShop ... etc do have many similarities.  haha

Are they fair in this capitalism community of HK?  
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發表於 2015-7-23 16:25:26 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 diamondblack 於 2015-7-23 16:27 編輯
CKKeung 發表於 2015-7-23 16:08
Apple, Café de Carol, Wellcome/PARKnShop ... etc do have many similarities.  haha

Are they fair  ...


There are a lot of factors in play other than copying the business model and ecosystem. Ask Microsoft (which includes Nokia), and Blackberry, and Palm. Penalizing success is just not correct.

By the way, iOS has a market share smaller than Android.

And by the way the second time, Apple does not determine the price of the app.
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 樓主| 發表於 2015-7-23 17:17:07 | 顯示全部樓層
diamondblack 發表於 2015-7-23 16:25
There are a lot of factors in play other than copying the business model and ecosystem. Ask Micros ...

Federal Trade Commission of USA is launching an antitrust investigation against Apple on this issue.
I will update hiendy members of the verdict.

Will the pricings of the Apple App Store in HK be affected then?
Interesting!
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 樓主| 發表於 2015-7-23 17:28:26 | 顯示全部樓層
競爭法於今年12月14日在香港全面生效 :
http://topick.hket.com/article/6 ... 2%E7%94%9F%E6%95%88

中學生通識科都有教 gar :
http://www.liberalstudies.hk/hongkong/ls_hongkong_72.php

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發表於 2015-7-23 17:53:16 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung 發表於 2015-7-23 17:28
競爭法於今年12月14日在香港全面生效 :
http://topick.hket.com/article/649042/%E7%AB%B6%E7%88%AD%E6%B3% ...

Antitrust is a lot more complicated than just a few slides.
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 樓主| 發表於 2015-7-23 18:15:36 | 顯示全部樓層
diamondblack 發表於 2015-7-23 17:53
Antitrust is a lot more complicated than just a few slides.

Of course a complicated issue.  Just to illustrate that it's everywhere in our daily living.

Let's wait and see the verdict of FTC.
And in Dec 2015, will there be another battle in HK?  haha
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發表於 2015-7-23 20:58:24 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 odysseyhk 於 2015-7-23 21:01 編輯

Just curious, is Android not charging vendors selling through their platform?  

I'm Apple user, I get used to be charged for the service Apple offered.
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發表於 2015-7-23 23:24:20 | 顯示全部樓層
odysseyhk 發表於 2015-7-23 20:58
Just curious, is Android not charging vendors selling through their platform?  

I'm Apple user, I g ...

Apple and Google both charge 30% on revenue generated from downloads and in-app purchases.

Apple is now asking apps which linked to a subscription content must offer to sell the content over the app, or ask the customer to conclude the subscription payment using Apple's payment system, and ask for 30% revenue split. So Apple is asking for the option to buy via the iOS app. They do not ask the app/content provider to sell solely via the iOS app.

Google Play, I think, is YET to change the terms to charge that.
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