2019農曆新年玩嘢試嘢小報告之二 : SGM Extreme Server

powerpaul

SGMS用Roon及HQ Player

vhs

powerpaul 發表於 2019-2-11 17:00
CK兄所言極是，SGMS Evo更要大大力煲，愈煲愈好聲。

Vhs兄，SGMS Evo我用USB線接入解碼，SGMS EVo亦可以加 ...

Thx Paul 兄,

I am using my cheap cheap DIY Roon Sever and looking for a replacement.

vhs

powerpaul 發表於 2019-2-11 17:02
SGMS用Roon及HQ Player

blau.vol

vhs 發表於 2019-2-11 17:13

SGM EVO ,  ROON with HQPlayer is default ,  for SGM Extreme ,  depends on the setup ....

but ROON and engine will be ON diff CPU .

vhs

blau.vol 發表於 2019-2-11 18:53
SGM EVO ,  ROON with HQPlayer is default ,  for SGM Extreme ,  depends on the setup ....

but ROO ...

powerpaul

今天趁系尖沙咀拜年的空檔上左去Ben sir度，部SGM Extreme已經遠遠超班過SGM Evo, 就算剛到幾日未進入狀態，EVO亦不能與其作任何一絲一毫抆車邊的比較，我完全系目瞪口呆，因為個server, Ben兄的聆聽房200多呎足足大左1倍以上，連帶Volent喇叭都升了兩班，完全痴左線, 我認同CK兄觀點，它肯定系CAS的全新里程碑。如果SGMS 2015系Leica M8, Evo系Leica M9, 咁SGM Extreme就系Leica M11，完全跳開M10, 系屬於未來的產品，不應今天便推出。

vhs

powerpaul 發表於 2019-2-11 20:13
今天趁系尖沙咀拜年的空檔上左去Ben sir度，部SGM Extreme已經遠遠超班過SGM Evo, 就算剛到幾日未進入狀態 ...

超毒

medjohn

剛好我也是去了Ben Sir 處八掛
Extreme 即是Extreme
Extreme density, 3D and detail
EVO already very advance
Extreme is far ahead of it.

I agree, competitors have a very hard time to catch up
especially the outer enclosure, and inner detail

But when you look at the price, you understand why this is called such a price

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED for CAS and music lovers

vhs

medjohn 發表於 2019-2-11 22:03
剛好我也是去了Ben Sir 處八掛
Extreme 即是Extreme
Extreme density, 3D and detail

KamkamChai

powerpaul 發表於 2019-2-11 20:13
今天趁系尖沙咀拜年的空檔上左去Ben sir度，部SGM Extreme已經遠遠超班過SGM Evo, 就算剛到幾日未進入狀態 ...

嘩！ 這麼厲害想唔升級都不能了

vhs

medjohn 發表於 2019-2-11 22:03
剛好我也是去了Ben Sir 處八掛
Extreme 即是Extreme
Extreme density, 3D and detail

請問試聽時用甚麼 music software ? 是否用 usb 直入 解碼？謝謝

vhs

chuck 發表於 2019-2-10 11:40
This is a super engineered audio server for the very discerning audiophiles ! The components used in ...

"how does the extra processing speed translate to the actual sonic quality advancement?"

I think it depends on the design of particular music software.....

EuroDriver

vhs 發表於 2019-2-12 04:18
"how does the extra processing speed translate to the actual sonic quality advancement?"

I think  ...

Extra processing speed and multiple cores allows for faster processing of both OS processes, and play back software routines / code blocks .

The quicker the task is completed, the faster the CPU core can go into idle state and there by reducing RF emissions

With low noise floor DAC's such as the TotalDAC D1-12 mk2 you can really hear more and less CPU activity duration

vhs

EuroDriver 發表於 2019-2-13 00:26
Extra processing speed and multiple cores allows for faster processing of both OS processes, and p ...

Thanks for your input.

EuroDriver

chuck 發表於 2019-2-10 04:40
This is a super engineered audio server for the very discerning audiophiles ! The components used in ...

Hi Chuck,

Great questions, these are the questions we had 4 years ago !

How can digital equipment delivering an un-corrupted data stream, buffered and timed with precision, sound any different ?

A consistent observation is the sound quality is heavily influenced by OS activity and processes, the delivered bits are the same, they are all buffered and timed with precision so what’s going on ?

3 years ago Emile and I invested in acquiring quite a bit of RF detection and spectrum analysis gear from these folks https://www.aaronia.com/products/antennas/

What we can observe is that the RF soup coming from all of the clocks and oscillators gets everywhere and is very difficult to dramatically attenuate. The RF noise is transmitted over the air and piggybacks on every cable, conductor and ground plane. We can also observe that CPU and RAM activity changes the observable RF emissions.

Another interesting and consistent empirical observation is that the listener heard sound quality coming from digital equipment is very vibration sensitive and of a similar order of magnitude to the vibration sensitivity of analog equipment.

I would humbly propose that the sound quality differences we are hearing are being transmitted by RF noise emissions emanating from the myriad clocks and oscillators in digital equipment, and being detected by the analog components and cabling in the playback chain.

All of the hardware and software features which Emile has implemented deliver sonic differences that are easily perceivable and consistent with a mechanism of RF transmission of noise, both SQ enhancing, and SQ degrading. The design strategy is to shape the noise, minimizing the SQ degrading RF noise and to amplify the SQ enhancing RF noise.

Emile scratched the surface with the SGM 2015, developed more with great data points and personal experience from brother Ben resulting in the SGM Evo, and now pushed to another level in the Extreme

vhs

EuroDriver 發表於 2019-2-13 01:11
Hi Chuck,

Great questions, these are the questions we had 4 years ago !

CKKeung

EuroDriver 發表於 2019-2-13 01:11
Hi Chuck,

Great questions, these are the questions we had 4 years ago !

Hello Edward,

Many thanks for joining and sharing your expert views and info on SGM EVO/Extreme servers here on Hiendy.com !
This is the right site to do so, as Hiendy is the most popular Hi-end hifi forum in Hong Kong!

chuck

EuroDriver 發表於 2019-2-13 01:11
Hi Chuck,

Great questions, these are the questions we had 4 years ago !

Thanks for sharing your experience with us. It’s very interesting to know what exactly the designers are focusing on to further enhance the SQ.

blau.vol

EuroDriver 發表於 2019-2-13 01:11
Hi Chuck,

Great questions, these are the questions we had 4 years ago !

Hi EuroDriver ,

Welcome !  Just hope my CAS tuning experience and requirement for Extreme did not give you guys too much pressure !

as powerpaul said ,  The Extreme is top of the top,  especially from a guy which got almost ALL servers above 100k range.  

Best,
blau
VOLENT

vhs

blau.vol 發表於 2019-2-13 10:32
Hi EuroDriver ,

Welcome !  Just hope my CAS tuning experience and requirement for Extreme did no ...