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[數碼線] "加鐘"變"送終" - Stealth Sextet V16 BNC 線

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發表於 2017-6-5 18:06:49 | 顯示全部樓層
V14 with collar version嘅Coaxial已經好堅,同Audio Note Black Pallas Coaxial拍跳過,Stealth嘅泛音、堂音確實比較出色,現場感一流水準,相反地Black Pallas嘅中低頻一帶比較有肉地,擅長表達唱歌者細膩感情,分析力就大家五五波! 唔知V16進化到咩境界⋯⋯
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發表於 2017-6-5 18:38:52 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung 發表於 2017-6-5 07:51
唔算太貴囉,頂級貨吖嘛。
Nordost V2 bnc cable 價都係差不多,Odin2 bnc 就更貴了。
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我都用緊 Nordost V2 bnc cable
比 totaldac twelve 用
a/b比較下
大幅拋離跟機條bnc好多好多
即時感覺有買貴無買錯

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發表於 2017-6-6 13:32:14 | 顯示全部樓層
westwood 發表於 2017-6-5 18:38
我都用緊 Nordost V2 bnc cable
比 totaldac twelve 用
a/b比較下

我比較過V2 & V16.

V2獨有既高頻柔美的確好易吸引人.

V16就在全頻及音場的完整性略勝.

兩條都係同GRADE既BNC, 主要真係要睇你自己的口味了.
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發表於 2017-6-6 13:32:53 | 顯示全部樓層
15/16 發表於 2017-6-5 18:06
V14 with collar version嘅Coaxial已經好堅,同Audio Note Black Pallas Coaxial拍跳過,Stealth嘅泛音、堂 ...

V16的中低頻穩定度比V14更強.
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發表於 2017-6-6 14:05:44 | 顯示全部樓層
dandylinpsst 發表於 2017-6-5 14:28
個人覺得鐘線首先還是要要求阻抗一定要正確,75ohm or 50ohm
在求調色
殊不知阻抗不對,聽的是Jitter失真的聲 ...

完全同意。
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發表於 2017-6-6 14:12:27 | 顯示全部樓層

所以BNC等等數碼線都係只信大廠...
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發表於 2017-6-6 15:56:43 | 顯示全部樓層
有冇師兄比較過PPA 同 AQVOX的switch,我用緊AQVOX。

http://www.aqvox.de/index_en.html
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發表於 2017-6-6 16:16:35 | 顯示全部樓層


Aquox 用料頗一般。  
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發表於 2017-6-6 17:16:29 | 顯示全部樓層
都已經聽到差別,其實就不用考慮了
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發表於 2017-6-6 17:28:32 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung 發表於 2017-6-6 16:16
Aquox 用料頗一般。

AQVOX又只喺mod 鐘?但佢個PSU又幾好聲。
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發表於 2017-6-9 15:28:58 | 顯示全部樓層

Totally agreed.

I have got the cybershraft 10M clock for my word clock.  When I compared the BNC cable that was purchased from cybershraft at a price less than HK$200 with a US$2,000 BNC cable (the same have been used for the connection of the word clock and DAC/transport).  The HK$200 cable won and the result was quite obvious.  I think this was because the HK$200 BNC cable is 50 ohm which is exactly the "output" of the 10M clock.  The US$200 BNC cable is 75 ohm.
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發表於 2017-6-9 15:47:51 | 顯示全部樓層
Hifidennis 發表於 2017-6-9 15:28
Totally agreed.

I have got the cybershraft 10M clock for my word clock.  When I compared the BNC  ...

Impedance matching of digital is paramount.
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發表於 2017-6-9 17:23:32 | 顯示全部樓層
greenleo 發表於 2017-6-9 15:47
Impedance matching of digital is paramount.

Interesting discussion here...

Based on the earlier posts found here, I actually emailed my network player supplier directly, Sforzato, to inquire about the matching of impedance on the clock cable as I am also using a 75 ohms cable for my 10M 50 ohms clock connection.  However, here is his reply.

"Regarding the clock cable, you do not have to worry about the impedance when the cable length is not so long. Less than 1.5m is ok for 75 ohm. Good 75 ohm cable gives much better sound than normal 50 ohm cable."

If Sforzato is right, then matching of impedance is really not necessary as long as cable is kept short.
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發表於 2017-6-9 17:49:15 | 顯示全部樓層
kensklo 發表於 2017-6-9 17:23
Interesting discussion here...

Based on the earlier posts found here, I actually emailed my netwo ...

For digital cable, impedance matching is to avoid reflection.  I'm surprised by the reply.  Anyway, only your ear can tell.
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發表於 2017-6-9 18:10:38 | 顯示全部樓層
greenleo 發表於 2017-6-9 17:49
For digital cable, impedance matching is to avoid reflection.  I'm surprised by the reply.  Anyway ...

In my case, the 75 ohms BNC cable I'm using now is 50x more expensive than the cheap cheap 50 ohms BNC I got at the beginning, so the improvement is noticeably significant.
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發表於 2017-6-9 18:22:30 | 顯示全部樓層
kensklo 發表於 2017-6-9 18:10
In my case, the 75 ohms BNC cable I'm using now is 50x more expensive than the cheap cheap 50 ohms ...

Ken 兄:
Glad for you.  Really!  As you may seen my signature which states “耳聽為實”,so the ear is the master。

For a fair comparison, I would try getting a 50 ohm in similar price range as well for a second comparison.  A cheap cheap cable may not give you exactly 50 ohm for instance.  Also there are other considerations other than impedance.  I have no intention to argue but just stating my way to find out the truth.

Cheers.
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發表於 2017-6-9 18:54:26 | 顯示全部樓層
the impedance matching is important in transmission theory. definitely the reply is wrong. mismatch will introduce a lot of signal reflection bounce back and forth along two ends
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發表於 2017-6-9 19:10:57 | 顯示全部樓層
racewong 發表於 2017-6-6 13:32
我比較過V2 & V16.

V2獨有既高頻柔美的確好易吸引人.

完全同意,未到天價之前,絕對不能錯過的兩個選擇。各有所好
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發表於 2017-6-10 14:55:44 | 顯示全部樓層
greenleo 發表於 2017-6-9 18:22
Ken 兄:
Glad for you.  Really!  As you may seen my signature which states “耳聽為實”,so the e ...

Haha, I don't think I'm going to invest into another 50 ohms BNC cable.  One is all I need, and as far as I can tell, the current 75 ohms is producing sound quality that I am already quite happy with.
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發表於 2017-6-10 15:14:40 | 顯示全部樓層
kensklo 發表於 2017-6-10 14:55
Haha, I don't think I'm going to invest into another 50 ohms BNC cable.  One is all I need, and as ...

Ken 兄:
I don't mean to buy another 50 ohm.  Far from it.  Just borrow or rent such a cable for audition purpose will do.  Again, you're happy is the most important thing.
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