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[解碼器] 英國 ifi 最新推出 Pro iDSD

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發表於 2018-2-2 17:30:47 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
本帖最後由 Avantgarde-HK 於 2020-10-14 11:09 編輯

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/ ... cial-thread.869144/

In short, we’ve explained in our regular fashion why this product is very unique. Since there’s still some time left to the official launch of our upcoming flagship DAC’s, we thought we’d describe in a less techy and more easygoing, newbie-friendly way what our Pro iDSD is all about. First stop is its enclosure’s front, back and - later on - also innards.

The Pro iDSD – what is it exactly?



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This machine, in short, is a DAC, also known as a d/a converter and quite commonly as a source. This means that its main purpose is to receive a digital signal either via cable or wirelessly, convert it to its analogue form and then pass it on to devices such as a preamplifier, a stereo power amplifier, a pair of mono amplifiers, a headphone amplifier or directly to various headphones. Yes, all these devices operate in the analogue domain, which leads us on to this statement:

· The Pro iDSD won’t pass digital signals to a different DAC and yes, this is on purpose.

The Pro iDSD was primarily built as a high quality digital to analog converter and this is how it should be used. It’s already function packed as it is and - instead of making it operable as an S/PDIF converter - our goal was to use the space normally reserved for this in a more useful way. Basically, using the Pro iDSD to feed a similar device with a digital signal is a big waste of its potential.

The enclosure
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Now, we have all that out of the way, let’s focus on the Pro iDSD’s enclosure. This machine is the same size as the iFi audio Pro iCAN and both products look very similar. The enclosure is made out of aircraft grade aluminium and its main purpose is to dissipate heat from the devices inside as they will get hot when powered on. In order to further improve on this, the chassis has many venting holes on its sides and on top. These align in a pleasantly rounded shape with a magnifying glass with a pair of fabulous vintage JAN GE5670 valves underneath. (Quick note – these class act valves are now reserved ONLY for our Pro series products but that’s another story). Anyway, we reckon that the Pro series chassis looks very cool.

The front panel – LED diode and standby/power switch

Let’s start with the upper left corner. There’s the iFi Pro logo based on a LED diode. Once the Pro iDSD is powered on, this lights up with one of four different colours. Each indicates a different operational status:

· Green: warming up
· White: solid-state mode
· Orange: tube mode
· Red: protection mode




Moving on, there’s a small, flat button in the lower left corner. This turns the product on or puts it in standby mode if you are not shutting it down completely.

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The front panel – input selector

Let’s now go a bit to the right. A large and endlessly rotating aluminium knob is next in line. It handles several jobs with its main one being digital input selection. You can cycle through the following options:

· Ethernet/WiFi/Hard Disk/Micro SDHC (Network Bridge/Streamer)
· Host USB
· Coaxial/Optical Digital Input
· XLR Digital Input
· BNC Digital Input

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There are also two additional adjustment options available via the input selector:

· Brightness (adjustable via a three second press)
· Polarity (adjustable via a long press)

The front panel – digital filter selector

The smaller knob located a bit to the right from the input selector is the digital filter selector. It enable two things.




The first feature (available via pressing the digital filter selector) is our proprietary DSD remastering. You can choose whether you’d like to have your music:

· Normal – where DSD signals are passed directly to the DAC. For PCM you may choose between a set of digital filters or bit-perfect, unprocessed PCM
· Upconverted to DSD512
· Upconverted to DSD1024

The second feature allows you to cycle through these five different filters on the fly via the rotary action:

1. 'Bit-Perfect' - No digital filtering is applied, one tap
2. 'Bit-Perfect+' - No digital filtering is applied, one tap, SINC roll-off @ HF is corrected
3. 'Minimum Phase' - Minimum filtering, no pre-ringing, minimum post ringing, 32 taps
4. 'Apodising' - Modest filtering, no pre-ringing, modest post ringing, 128 taps
5. 'Transient Aligned' - Max filtering, max pre-ringing, maximum post-ringing, 16,384 taps

Please think of these filters as different flavours. Each trades off frequency response flatness, transient response and suppression of ultrasonic images in a different way. There is no “perfect” filter option, such a thing is not possible, so select the filter that offer the right set of compromises for you.

We’ve already covered in detail how our proprietary digital filtering works in the Pro iDSD. Please take a look here:

· https://www.head-fi.org/threads/ ... ead.702376/page-127

What’s important is that the Pro iDSD is equipped with a FPGA chip that runss on iFi audio’s custom firmware and is responsible for all filters and remasters listed above. It’s worth noting that in this DAC, these operations are hardware based.
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發表於 2018-2-2 18:11:44 | 顯示全部樓層
正喎,有埋耳擴
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發表於 2018-2-2 20:53:11 | 顯示全部樓層
幾靚仔, dsd可以去到1024, 唔知配合hq player軟件會唔會又另一個境界呢?!
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發表於 2018-2-3 10:20:21 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 spang123 於 2018-2-3 10:34 編輯
sumchung 發表於 2018-2-2 20:53
幾靚仔, dsd可以去到1024, 唔知配合hq player軟件會唔會又另一個境界呢?! ...


HQPlayer的強項是將PCM及DSD「升頻(upsampling)」至優質的DSD512或最高至DSD1024。

既然這DAC已將DSD「轉換(convert)」成DSD512或DSD1024,那就不再須要配合使用HQPlayer了。
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發表於 2018-2-3 12:23:55 | 顯示全部樓層
spang123 發表於 2018-2-3 10:20
HQPlayer的強項是將PCM及DSD「升頻(upsampling)」至優質的DSD512或最高至DSD1024。

既然這DAC已將DSD「 ...

即是說這部機可以自動升頻, 是硬件升頻了?
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本帖最後由 spang123 於 2018-2-3 15:19 編輯
sumchung 發表於 2018-2-3 12:23
即是說這部機可以自動升頻, 是硬件升頻了?


值得留意的是,對於DSD訊源,iFi官方用的字眼是"DSD Remastering","convert"及"upconvert"等,而避開了用「升頻(upsampling)」的字眼。這DAC只能將DSD「轉換(convert or upconvert)」
成DSD512或DSD1024。

而PCM方面,iFi官方則不諱言用「升頻(upsampling)」及"upconvert"等字眼,至16 x PCM,但仍是PCM訊源,不能同時轉換成DSD。

至於為什麼對於PCM就用「升頻(upsampling)」,而DSD則用"Remastering"等,而避用「升頻(upsampling)」這字眼呢,這就不得而知了。但這令人猜想,這DAC可能只是把DSD「轉換(convert)或remaster,而不是真正的「升頻(upsampling)」。
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發表於 2018-2-3 20:11:06 | 顯示全部樓層
spang123 發表於 2018-2-3 15:05
值得留意的是,對於DSD訊源,iFi官方用的字眼是"DSD Remastering","convert"及"upconvert"等,而避開了 ...

收到iFi官方回覆:「那些程序(process)是一樣」。
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發表於 2018-2-3 21:26:29 | 顯示全部樓層
唔平,不如買ud-505
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 樓主| 發表於 2018-2-5 17:59:25 | 顯示全部樓層
據我們聽感及在大少系統測試.  實屬超班.  再加上以上所有功能, 都算得上抵買.

歡印到showroom 試聽!
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發表於 2018-2-5 22:33:30 | 顯示全部樓層
spang123 發表於 2018-2-3 20:11
收到iFi官方回覆:「那些程序(process)是一樣」。

咁即係兩者都係upsampling嗎?
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發表於 2018-2-5 22:37:44 | 顯示全部樓層
Avantgarde-HK 發表於 2018-2-5 17:59
據我們聽感及在大少系統測試.  實屬超班.  再加上以上所有功能, 都算得上抵買.

歡印到showroom 試聽!{:5_1 ...

請問貴舖的資料是甚麼?
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 樓主| 發表於 2018-2-6 13:56:20 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 Avantgarde-HK 於 2018-2-6 14:05 編輯
sumchung 發表於 2018-2-5 22:37
請問貴舖的資料是甚麼?


http://www.avantgardehongkong.com/en/contact

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發表於 2018-2-6 19:06:11 | 顯示全部樓層
sumchung 發表於 2018-2-5 22:33
咁即係兩者都係upsampling嗎?

官方無正面回答。
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Avantgarde-HK 發表於 2018-2-6 13:56
http://www.avantgardehongkong.com/en/contact

好的, 等我得閒會上黎拜訪!
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發表於 2018-2-6 23:32:05 | 顯示全部樓層
spang123 發表於 2018-2-6 19:06
官方無正面回答。

OK, 唔該晒!
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 樓主| 發表於 2018-3-13 12:37:50 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 Avantgarde-HK 於 2018-3-13 12:46 編輯
spang123 發表於 2018-2-3 15:05
值得留意的是,對於DSD訊源,iFi官方用的字眼是"DSD Remastering","convert"及"upconvert"等,而避開了 ...


你好,

ifi 官方回覆 DSD Remastering 是Studio grade 將母帶轉DSD 嘅技術.  至於詳細資料請等iFi 官綱公報.

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發表於 2018-3-13 19:13:42 | 顯示全部樓層
Avantgarde-HK 發表於 2018-3-13 12:37
你好,

ifi 官方回覆 DSD Remastering 是Studio grade 將母帶轉DSD 嘅技術.  至於詳細資料請等iFi 官綱 ...

謝謝你回覆
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 樓主| 發表於 2018-3-15 14:22:21 | 顯示全部樓層

iFi Audio Pro iDSD DAC at CanJam NYC 2018
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發表於 2018-3-15 15:53:27 | 顯示全部樓層
这个DAC觉得像CHORD的路子。
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 樓主| 發表於 2018-3-22 18:10:59 | 顯示全部樓層
iFi iDSD Pro的規格十分驚人,是一部能支援到DSD1024格式的USB DAC,附有耳擴功能,採用真空管放大,並可切換單端或平衡輸出,還提供增益調整功能,可以適應不同阻抗的耳機,面板的大型顯示幕則可清楚顯示當下的檔案取樣率。如果你對追求器材規格不遺餘力,iFi iDSD Pro必定會是你的下一個目標
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