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[測試報告] Lumin X1- Hello to my new friend!

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發表於 2018-8-19 21:53:46 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
Lumin X1
Finally a new model. Hello!
What a familiar streamer to me. Like saying Hi to an old/ New friend.

Lumin A1 is the first Streamer to bring me into the world of CAS back in about 5-6 years ago.  I decided to totally give up CD side because of Lumin. Let me start with some history before jump into X1.
Before I used Lumin A1, I was using the top notch SACD player and DAC in Goldmund, seriously invested a lot of money in CD side. But Lumin, a Hong Kong based hifi marker, totally turn my hifi path upside down, showing me what FAS, "File as source" to be exact, can do. I cannot say it win CD back in that time, but I am sure I can live with this simple yet clean solution than all my CD, DAC, and a lot of cables. It sound so so so analog in A1, of course with Kenneth Lau

So from that point up, decided no more CD, focus on FAS. I think this is the future. And its competitor is LP only when I doing AB. And I have been focused in doing a lot of research and upgrade my network to make this A1 sound beautiful. And I think I did a very good job on that, then, without a thought I upgrade to S1. Again, with Kenneth Lau LPS, this S1 performed magically in my system. A lot of people came to listen to my FAS and using only NAS as my player. So I always consider myself that I was the best demo to show what Lumin can do.
Sometime, people have comments about Lumin, I would invited them to visit my demo, feel like I need to speak out for them, especially it is a local brand. Something belongs to Hong Kong.
In Fact, some ching was so puzzle why LUMIN S1 can perform so well and bring another top notch DAC to battle at my place. But no Luck, I won. Hahaha. So he left his CH precision here for me to play further. Then I spent another two weeks to focus on CH precision, Yes, R2R is something. It does give something that delta sigma cannot give, then I decided to go for CH. And went further with my research on FAS. Here is some of the update of my FAS life.

Somehow, I knew Lumin’s boss though my friend but we never met before he brought this new X1 to my home. He heard a lot of things about how I spent a lot of time in his Lumin, and he want to come to my place to do a first home demo, of course, I was so happy to listen and write something about it.


So all black metal sitting here, with a lovely app interface. I missed this app, I wish I can use this app to control my CH.
First thing worrying me is how will it performs without Kenneth Lau LPS? It is not a fair game to AB with my CH precision, C1 + X1, + a opt 14 cybershaft 10M clock + cables + filter…..a lot more.
Will I disappointed? A lot of questions in my head.

The design team, which came with the boss, explained telling me that they noticed what the LPS can do to Lumin, so this verison LPS has upgrade and using the HIFI grade stuffs inside. So reminded me not to worry about the LPS.

Music started! Sound good! Music flow out organically.
The worry that I have about it was not a fair game was gone. It was really good. Definitely a big step comparing to S1.
Then I applied all the filter and my Tripoint Troy to the Lumin X1. Huge improvement! It brought the Lumin back to CH level with extra X1 power supply and clocked and filter level.

We listened to Jackie Chan, 雪狼湖, the image and the guitar sound organic and right. Then we moved to Jazz, Jazz is the strong field in Lumin, I must say, Lumin always give a very musical tone since A1, With this X1, they kept all the good thing in the past, but increased a lot of density and airy details, High Fidelity elements were all upgraded. Then they did some further setting in the app and wifi, then Lumin really improved a lot in replay all the music again.

This version comparing to S1, the sound is more lively or real in a way. The problem I have with previous S1 is the harshness with the violin and the instruments. This X1 somehow make the instrument how “real or organic”. Like Belafonte At Carnegie Hall, Cotton Field, the background and the bass can create the ambient environment and the lively bass cello was missing in S1. X1 brings that little details back and handle them perfectly. Then we tested it with classical, the violin is “okay good” but not too perfect type, I must say. But very high standard already.

Then the group suggested why don’t we moved to fiber input instead of Lan. Right! My switch is buffalo 2016A with OXOC clocked and has a native lan in, fiber out version. It was perfect for this test. But they only have a entry level fiber driver and a 30m cost $200 HKD cable for test. But why no? so we connected fiber input. I heard from them they are the first streamer with direct fiber input. and explain how they spent time in design this. Technical part….. I don’t understand.
Attached the spec in PDF for you guys to know further.

Let play the same classical again. Man!! The violin has much more detail then my Lan version… Remarked, my lan cable is Vertere HB vs a $200 HKD in 30m long and entry level modules. The string has a lot more in it, you can listen all the strings and the airy background increased quite a lot. So we based on this setup and listen again. But I do like lan in vocal and Jazz. But Classical, I prefer using fiber. However, this is not a fair game. I think if one invest the best optical module and best fiber cable, I bet it will perform much better. In term of SN ratio, Fiber wins a lot already.

They left Lumin X1 a few days more for me to listen further and boiling. So I have a chance to do AB with my CH. It comes to a conclusion that they difference actually is R2R vs Delta sigma. What surprise me is Lumin overcome the harness of Sabre DAC, giving such a organic sound.
I have no intention to connect it back CH while it was still sitting in my room. The interface is so user friendly and can support tidal and all sort of things natively. And very compact is the key for me as well. Make me has a thought to sell all my CH and back to the arm of Lumin X1 again. Cause it is just lovely.
With this thought, so I invited a serious friend to shootout for a seriously AB again. Okay, I must admit that my CH still marginally win because of the nature of R2R I guess. and it cost a lot more than this Lumin. But without this AB, I can enjoy and listen to this X1 without a problem actually.

If you want a all in one solution, attached a NAS, like me, a USB or Hard disk then start enjoy very high level of music replay. this is it! The gears basically support everything. DSD, PCM, MQS?, ROON, Tidal, etc. you name it. Small, compact and a user friendly app. Highly recommend!

I think Ben Sir will do a very good demo in this place in the coming show.
PS. i don't suggest to use either A1 to X1 as a streamer to skip it DAC actually, somehow i tested with A1 and S1. i think they fine tuning the system as a whole package. if one only streamer can go for U1. just my two cents.

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 樓主| 發表於 2018-8-19 22:01:58 | 顯示全部樓層
Sorry guys!
i don't know how to do layout in above. try to insert pictures in between texts.
and figuring now how to attach the PDF in here
 樓主| 發表於 2018-8-19 22:02:53 | 顯示全部樓層
Attached the PDF

LUMIN-X1-Keynote-v1.1-C.pdf

1.6 MB, 下載次數: 2399

Here you go

發表於 2018-8-20 05:58:44 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 CKKeung 於 2018-8-20 08:39 編輯

X1 唔平但卻能打破 delta-sigma dac chips 的宿命, 擠身在 high performance DAC 之列了。


Lumin X1 除好聲外, 尚有兩個優勢 :
1. 一如以往, OS 運行暢順冇鑊氣,各類檔案適應度廣,user interface 易明友善!

2. 玩 FAS/CAS 一定要投資和諗掂 network pathway。  X1 有 optical network (ethernet) input,加上 Ben Sir 是 retailer,有齊 Clones/Volent Switch 和各種 optical fibres 及 transievers 作匹配,成功之路易行得多了!

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發表於 2018-8-20 07:46:22 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 mr1010 於 2018-8-20 07:57 編輯

小弟在 QNAP NAS 安裝一個 BubbleUpnp server(希望冇記錯),就可以用 Lumin app 控制 CH C1 + Streaming card .

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發表於 2018-8-20 08:14:44 | 顯示全部樓層
嘩, 你幾時買左部Goldmund CDT?

部Lumin X1真係好正。 HIENDY網友星期五六都可以聽了
 樓主| 發表於 2018-8-20 10:20:52 | 顯示全部樓層
mr1010 發表於 2018-8-20 07:46
小弟在 QNAP NAS 安裝一個 BubbleUpnp server(希望冇記錯),就可以用 Lumin app 控制 CH C1 + Streaming ca ...

yes, bubble player. i am using it now.
 樓主| 發表於 2018-8-20 10:22:37 | 顯示全部樓層
racewong 發表於 2018-8-20 08:14
嘩, 你幾時買左部Goldmund CDT?

部Lumin X1真係好正。 HIENDY網友星期五六都可以聽了 ...

this is the old picture when i still CD and CAS and LP.
I gave up CDT after having Lumin A1......
發表於 2018-8-20 11:58:08 | 顯示全部樓層
kahw 發表於 2018-8-20 10:22
this is the old picture when i still CD and CAS and LP.
I gave up CDT after having Lumin A1......
...

Oic. 唔怪得我之前上你屋企都唔見依部Goldmund啦。
發表於 2018-8-20 14:34:04 | 顯示全部樓層
kahw 發表於 2018-8-19 22:01
Sorry guys!
i don't know how to do layout in above. try to insert pictures in between texts.
and fig ...

Do you mean directly using the x1 with the internal dac and directly connect to the pre amp?
And this can already KO a lot of combo?

Wow!
 樓主| 發表於 2018-8-20 17:46:53 | 顯示全部樓層
medjohn 發表於 2018-8-20 14:34
Do you mean directly using the x1 with the internal dac and directly connect to the pre amp?
And t ...

Correct!
Remember it sound better with Balanced output.
Since I am using goldmund 22M, only take RCA.
So I custom a XLR out to RCA interconnect cable.
This applied CH too. It will sound a lot better!
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