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[線材] 用線材於 HiFi 系統的反思

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發表於 2011-7-20 11:33:53 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式


近日也見到不少朋友也買入新接線的行動及考慮更換接線的計劃



有沒有考慮到你對線材於 HiFi 系統的要求及表現 ?



其實可能最少有 4 個不同方向或取向

(1) 滿意所有器材的特性,接線只是要真確無誤 (不加味精) 的將音樂資料由一方傳至另一端

(2) 不滿意其中一件或多件器材(或線材)的特性,或組合效果不佳,便希望接線要改變加入一些"顏色"並有效將音樂資料改善合乎個人口味

(3) 都唔知自己要乜,胡亂嘗試不同組合,希望找到合乎個人口味

(4) 乜都唔理,多人用即好、有貴買貴、只買入容易賣出二手市場的品牌及型號、 .....



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發表於 2011-7-20 11:35:03 | 顯示全部樓層
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發表於 2011-7-20 11:43:54 | 顯示全部樓層
I am (2) type
sinner 發表於 2011-7-20 11:35



我依個無舖頭既二手佬, 當然係(4)啦.   

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 樓主| 發表於 2011-7-20 11:44:21 | 顯示全部樓層
I am (2) type
sinner 發表於 2011-7-20 11:35




我亦相信選擇 (2) 是最多的

因為很多系統也有改善空間

問題是換器材是否最先 ? 找到滿意的器材後才用線材配合 ?

或是用現在不太滿意的器材,希望用線材作改善 ?

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發表於 2011-7-20 11:48:58 | 顯示全部樓層
我依個無舖頭既二手佬, 當然係(4)啦.
racewong 發表於 2011-7-20 11:43


兄弟,我都係4呀!
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發表於 2011-7-20 12:02:31 | 顯示全部樓層
小弟愚見,器材的改變為音質上和音色上為大,線材為音色,和將器材的放出來。貴線的表現為無自己音色,越貴越靜和平衡。所以換線上,小弟會了解不同metal的特性和音色去選擇的大前提。有錯唔好打面,唔該
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發表於 2011-7-20 12:04:37 | 顯示全部樓層
2 + 4
主要目的係2
但係好難唔考慮4
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發表於 2011-7-20 12:11:18 | 顯示全部樓層
原意係2,但最後變左3
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發表於 2011-7-20 12:18:06 | 顯示全部樓層
To share my experience, I think changing gear will completely change the sound signature for the entire system.  So changing cable and accessory will be just a tweaking / enhancement to the system.  So I will pick the right gears, breaking in them, settle them down and then see what tweaking / fine tune I need.

我亦相信選擇 (2) 是最多的

因為很多系統也有改善空間

問題是換器材是否最先 ?  ...
raywan 發表於 2011-7-20 11:44

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 樓主| 發表於 2011-7-20 12:20:03 | 顯示全部樓層
小弟愚見,器材的改變為音質上和音色上為大,線材為音色,和將器材的放出來。貴線的表現為無自己音色,越貴越靜和平衡。所以換線上,小弟會了解不同metal的特性和音色去選擇的大前提。有錯唔好打面,唔該
louisc 發表於 2011-7-20 12:02


同意部份

以下是最常用的線材的導體金屬材料的導電指數

以最普通的銅 (Copper) 作基準 (100%) 作比較

Materials Conductivity Scale.jpg

不同金屬,有不同的特性和音色 ?

如何去選擇 ?

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發表於 2011-7-20 12:20:31 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 fatboy88 於 2011-7-20 12:23 編輯
一樣...
又係亂咁試...
brkkh 發表於 2011-7-20 12:18



唔試唔知邊隻好,唔入唔知hi咁多
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-7-20 12:22:36 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 raywan 於 2011-7-20 12:26 編輯
To share my experience, I think changing gear will completely change the sound signature for the entire system.  So changing cable and accessory will be just a tweaking / enhancement to the system.  So I will pick the right gears, breaking in them, settle them down and then see what tweaking / fine tune I need.

sinner 發表於 2011-7-20 12:18


Agree.  These are sensible ways to achieve the setup with progressive enhancement.

First, to select the right gears / equipment to meet your need and character.

Follow up on fine tuning using different cables, accessories, placement, etc to adjust the system to meet your personal taste.



Please note, once the selected gears and equipment are your preferred type or style, do you want to adjust their characteristics by using different cables to change them ?

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發表於 2011-7-20 12:37:57 | 顯示全部樓層
回復 11# raywan


    First , I think cable cannot improve on sound quality given from gear is 100%. I believe by putting cable cannot outperform 100%. so when I change cables, I wish to alternate the color to what I want and to max the gear performance. Diff metal to me is diff color. So u think choosing cable is to choose your color.
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-7-20 12:54:30 | 顯示全部樓層
回復  raywan


   First , I think cable cannot improve on sound quality given from gear is 100%. I believe by putting cable cannot outperform 100%. so when I change cables, I wish to alternate the color to what I want and to max the gear performance. Diff metal to me is diff color. So u think choosing cable is to choose your color.
louisc 發表於 2011-7-20 12:37


Fair comments.

This is the main reason why there are so many cable companies with different cables of various styles or coloration getting lots of business.

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 樓主| 發表於 2011-7-20 12:55:32 | 顯示全部樓層
都係睇下人地d評語, 了解下d特性, 之後就科水
brkkh 發表於 2011-7-20 12:22




Good customer

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發表於 2011-7-20 12:57:51 | 顯示全部樓層
Fair comments.

This is the main reason why there are so many cable companies with different cable ...
raywan 發表於 2011-7-20 12:54



    RAYWAN 兄,有無比較過KUBALA SONSNA ELATION 同WIREWORLD PLATINUM? 兩者都標鎊無添加
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發表於 2011-7-20 13:40:22 | 顯示全部樓層
humm.. if we are now talking sound signature, then all the brand named product also got it's sound signature no matter it is CD player, amplifier or just a cable or spike, the all do got it's sound signature.  The different just how strong it will be.  Personally I will not pick cable or accessory with very strong sound signature as this will completely change my system sound.  Back to your question, I will use cables and accessories to fine tune my system to suit my taste better and I used to do so too.

Agree.  These are sensible ways to achieve the setup with progressive enhancement.

First, to sele ...
raywan 發表於 2011-7-20 12:22
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-7-20 13:51:50 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 raywan 於 2011-7-20 13:53 編輯
RAYWAN 兄,有無比較過KUBALA SONSNA ELATION 同WIREWORLD PLATINUM? 兩者都標鎊無添加 ...
cyberken 發表於 2011-7-20 12:57




無識得朋友有用 Kubala Sosna Elation

所以無机會比較



http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue44/kubala_sosna_elation.htm

Interconnect rankings of cables ranked by reviewer preference within price categories as follows:

Over $4000 per meter

    Kubala-Sosna Elation (balanced and single ended)   

    Jorma Prime (balanced and single-ended) Conditional ranking

    Nordost Odin (balanced and single ended)

    Tara Labs The Zero (single ended)

    Acrolink 7N-DA6100 (single-ended)

    Jorma Origo (single-ended and balanced)

$2000 - 4000 per meter

    Harmonic Technology Photon Interconnects [fiber optic] with Power Pack 5 (balanced and single-ended)

    Kubala-Sosna Emotion (balanced and single-ended)

    Jorma #1 (balanced and single-ended)

    Nordost Valhalla (balanced and single-ended)

    Acrolink 7N-A2500 Mexcel (single-ended)

    Silversmith Palladium (balanced and single-ended)

    Kimber Select WITH Bybee Golden Goddess "Super Effect" RCA IC Tails (single-ended)

$1000 - 2000 per meter

    CRL Silver Interconnects (balanced and single-ended)

    Stereovox 600-SEIii (balanced and single-ended)

    Kubala-Sosna Expression (balanced and single-ended)

    Kimber Select Silver (balanced and single-ended)

    Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II (balanced and single-ended)

$450 - 1000 per meter

    Harmonic Technology Magic II (Balanced and single-ended)

    Nordost Heimdall (Balanced and single-ended)

    CRL Copper Series Interconnects (Single-ended tested)

    Harmonic Technology Pro Sil-way III+ (balanced and single-ended)

    Kimber Select Copper (balanced and single-ended)

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 樓主| 發表於 2011-7-20 14:10:08 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 raywan 於 2011-7-20 14:16 編輯
humm.. if we are now talking sound signature, then all the brand named product also got it's sound signature no matter it is CD player, amplifier or just a cable or spike, the all do got it's sound signature.  The different just how strong it will be.  Personally I will not pick cable or accessory with very strong sound signature as this will completely change my system sound.  Back to your question, I will use cables and accessories to fine tune my system to suit my taste better and I used to do so too.

sinner 發表於 2011-7-20 13:40




I concur with your approach on fine tuning the system with cables and accessories of neutral or minimal signature or coloration.

For equipment, we all accept they are usually having more or less in certain extent some special/unique style or characteristics on reproducing the music content.  The selection is depending on the taste of the users to meet their needs.  Some with high analytical power to reproduce close to the original music but some may add coloration to make the music becoming more easy listening.

I have no comment on any person to select their own system with any equipment combinations for a particular setup style.  This is the musical signature for an individual based on his own preference.

From my own opinion, the links (digital / interconnect / speaker cable) for the equipment should be as neutral as possible to transmit the audio signals across and let the equipment deliver their styles that we like.

At most, we should use cables or accessories with mild character to fine tune or tweak the overall audio performance for possible enhancement to meet the final taste of an individual.

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發表於 2011-7-20 14:15:08 | 顯示全部樓層
Good summarization Ryan, live and let live.  Agreed with your opinion!

I concur with your approach on fine tuning the system with cables and access ...
raywan 發表於 2011-7-20 14:10
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