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發表於 2016-10-23 13:24:41 | 顯示全部樓層
dominiquetu 發表於 2016-10-22 17:25
AS881 hing,

All flagship you have mentioned; i.e. MFA Baby Reference, MFA Baby Reference v2, are  ...

actually i don't really see the conversation has gone too far. i think all have been focusing on what a passive preamp, and a bespoke can put on the table. even there were a lot of MFA info and discussion, but eventually they were pointing to bespoke is not bad at all.

dominique hing, re the comment on use of silver by Bespoke and MFA, that very much sum it up my experience in using silver in my system (i am not using a passive pre-amp though). silver should be able to give well-balanced presentation across bass, mid and high audio frequencies, a warmer tonal color, and improved sound density. but as we all know there have been way more instances the exact contrary to the above were mentioned when people talked about adding more silver to their systems.
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 樓主| 發表於 2016-10-24 07:06:42 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 blau.vol 於 2016-10-27 08:50 編輯
diamondblack 發表於 2016-10-23 13:24
actually i don't really see the conversation has gone too far. i think all have been focusing on w ...


Dear all chings,

Silver wound and wiring:
With regarding the silver wound and wiring ,  it is possible for the Bespoke Passive pre- amplifier ( as so called bespoke).   the wiring and the WBT connectors will ALL change to silver also.   

final price will be provided by final confirmation, due to GBP fluctuations  and silver cost is US Dollar packed.  

Silver sonic signature :
for comparing silver transformer wiring with IC,  SC or PC ,  sometimes it may got  quite some different sonic signature as diamondblack mentioned (I believe it is a matter of matching).     For IC or SC ,  we can have double run or quad run or even MORE for fine sonic signature tuning .     however,  for transformer wound and wiring,  we have single core,  single run and dielectric cannot be used as tuning variable  ......  

so sometimes,  the sonic signature  with silver transformer may not be exactly the same as IC and SC with much more tuning variables.  I did not mention about cable geometry actually.....

As Bespoke passive preamplifer  is really transparency and with extremely  fast in transient response with rich mid /bass ALREADY  (好味) .    (i believe it partly because of the transformer in beewax )    ,  change to silver wound and wiring can be done by factory  but the sonic signature may change .... please note .  

So,  silver wound and wiring can be done without any problem with Bespoke Passive  ! hope I can answer the related question ....

Cheers,
Blau
VOLENT
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 樓主| 發表於 2016-10-24 07:31:39 | 顯示全部樓層
blau.vol 發表於 2016-10-24 07:06
Dear all chings,

Silver wound and wiring:

By the way,  the Bespoke got Remote handset....
  
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發表於 2016-10-24 16:08:11 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 MatthewC 於 2016-10-24 16:10 編輯

I am actually quite interested in the silver version of the Bespoke Audio TVC. I am still using the silver version of the S&B TVC (called Django) from over a decade ago, and had the MFA Baby Reference for some time for comparison. The old S&B silver transformers were indeed warmer sounding than the very neutral Baby Reference. Baby Ref has much better speed and tauter bass when compared to the decade-old Django..... Overall I like the old S&B silver version more, just for the tone.

In any case, I could not find any mention on the web regarding all-silver version of the Bespoke TVC. Ben, is there any comments/feedbacks from the Bespoke team regarding sonic differences between silver and copper?

Thanks!
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 樓主| 發表於 2016-10-24 20:49:27 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 blau.vol 於 2016-10-25 07:15 編輯
MatthewC 發表於 2016-10-24 16:08
I am actually quite interested in the silver version of the Bespoke Audio TVC. I am still using the  ...


Hi MatthewC ,

Yes,  you will NOT find any information on the web as Bespoke is not intended to release any silver version as standard model .  as they believe the current version sound good in transparency and tonal balance .     

But he believe some of the user prefer to have full silver in his system and therefore, they offer silver wire as an option.  but there is impact of material  cost .   

Cheers,
Blau
VOLENT
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發表於 2016-10-25 13:08:23 | 顯示全部樓層
Ben sir pls pm price
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發表於 2016-10-25 13:16:00 | 顯示全部樓層

CHOI SAN快D試啦, 依部BESPOKE堅呀!
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發表於 2016-10-25 19:00:37 | 顯示全部樓層
英磅平系時候買啦!

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發表於 2016-10-26 13:22:38 | 顯示全部樓層
blau.vol 發表於 2016-10-24 20:49
Hi MatthewC ,

Yes,  you will NOT find any information on the web as Bespoke is not intended to r ...

Thanks Ben.

I am one of those with all-silver system, from cartridge all the way to the amplifier.... hence if possible I would like to keep it that way. What's holding me back from ordering Bespoke so far is simply.... there doesn't seem to be a way for me ascertain what differences are there between the silver and copper versions. I used the Baby Reference for some time so I think I have some, um, reference point. The tone of the Baby Ref was a little bland in my setup.

Is it possible to get some statements from the Bespoke team as to what difference can one expect?
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發表於 2016-10-26 16:27:52 | 顯示全部樓層
ChoiChoi 發表於 2016-10-25 19:00
英磅平系時候買啦!

英磅遲d會唔會更低  
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 樓主| 發表於 2016-10-26 18:43:31 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 blau.vol 於 2016-10-27 08:52 編輯
MatthewC 發表於 2016-10-26 13:22
Thanks Ben.

I am one of those with all-silver system, from cartridge all the way to the amplifie ...


Dear MatthewC hing,

Got the update from Factory ....  the silver and the copper tonal balance should be same .  For the existing copper version,   the tonal balance is rich in density in both mid and bass.   and definitely not bland in signature, so do silver.   

Most of Bespoke user required Silver version as they have full Silver systemand the system can carry the density.

Cheers,
Blau
VOLENT
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發表於 2016-12-16 12:09:01 | 顯示全部樓層
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發表於 2016-12-16 13:06:33 | 顯示全部樓層
之前同個hifi 老手講話我訂左尼個無源前級,佢即刻話尼d 機麻麻地,無動太,音場也是平平的。當時我無嘢好講,因為我無聽過就同 Ben sir 訂左部。

好好彩尼部 bespoke 完全無尼d 特性、除左靜到無輪外佢反而糸音場闊,好自然流

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發表於 2016-12-16 13:36:07 | 顯示全部樓層
......好自然流暢,分析力更另我聽多左聲尾。 最意外的系佢有一份銅線嘅厚潤, 使我冷冷的 magico 喇叭多一點人性。 以 performance 計尼部 bespoke 真系抵買, 好似佢網頁所講,尼部可能係你最後一部前級。

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發表於 2016-12-16 13:45:28 | 顯示全部樓層
ChoiChoi 發表於 2016-12-16 13:36
......好自然流暢,分析力更另我聽多左聲尾。 最意外的系佢有一份銅線嘅厚潤, 使我冷冷的 magico 喇叭多一 ...

我地喺BEN SIR舖頭攪左咁 多次SHOW, 個個會員都知依部BESPOKE既音場大闊又深. 的確係物有所值.
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發表於 2016-12-16 13:50:04 | 顯示全部樓層
ChoiChoi 發表於 2016-12-16 13:36
......好自然流暢,分析力更另我聽多左聲尾。 最意外的系佢有一份銅線嘅厚潤, 使我冷冷的 magico 喇叭多一 ...

Choichoi兄 :
Bespoke 之音色音效和性價比之高是無庸置疑的!
而你所選的外觀配搭真是十分十分 elegant!
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發表於 2016-12-16 15:00:39 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung 發表於 2016-12-16 13:50
Choichoi兄 :
Bespoke 之音色音效和性價比之高是無庸置疑的!
而你所選的外觀配搭真是十分十分 elegant!

這是招牌 MBL 黑金,唔會錯得去邊
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發表於 2016-12-16 17:31:54 | 顯示全部樓層
Ben Sir, Please pm the price
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 樓主| 發表於 2016-12-17 06:16:53 | 顯示全部樓層
hkwillpower 發表於 2016-12-16 17:31
Ben Sir, Please pm the price

dear hkwillpower , pls kindly check pm.
Best,
Blau
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發表於 2016-12-17 07:39:27 | 顯示全部樓層
Ben Sir, can pm me price please?
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