勾查喇/Ultra is coming (Velodyne - SPL Ultra 1200R)

ryanenen

remember our ear was human ears ......not sound meter or computer

unless u have series so ...
claero 發表於 2011-5-24 22:01

eq係有用既,爭在用得好吾好.
如果movies 係studio mixing吾落eq, 音效無甘出色
依家bd disc 音效全部經eq較正過,
當然不可盡信eq, graphs係比參考,最後耳仔聽為準

rklpoon

remember our ear was human ears ......not sound meter or computer

unless u have series so ...
claero 發表於 2011-5-24 22:01

    Couldn't agree with you more.

You are an expert user and have sensitive ears, know-how and knowledge to trim sound quality to your taste. It's like tunning a super car's engine, air inlet cam shaft to make it "man blend/merge with the car". That's why in general you depise market product/tool like Audyssey, YPAO, MCACC or Anthem ARC because each has its own shortage.

I am just an amateur with tin ears, lack experience in tunning. Without an acceptable knowledge to distinguish best form better(only can tell the bad), it would easier to do harm than good. It's like driving an automatic-gear car, surely it has limitation and looked down upon by the pro-driver, but it provide a simple platform to enjoy driving.

I used to use whatever auto auto EQ tools available like YPAO and Audyssey first and tried to level the speaker channels and that's all for me in the past.. Surely that's a long way from what you usually do.  

BTW, Anthem ARC is doing a good job (much better than the Onkyo and Yamaha, otherwise I would not buy it) in my set-up and environment and I enjoy that very much.

rklpoon

講多無謂,你入左隻正野十仔,你自然知道以前聽少左乜野
ryanenen 發表於 2011-5-24 22:52

    Exactly.

randyma

Tonight, just finished running the Anthem ARC with my new Ultra sub. Strange thing is that I set Bas ...
rklpoon 發表於 2011-5-24 21:47

Good to hear you that Ultra improve a lot. It will much better after run in.

ryanenen

Good to hear you that Ultra improve a lot. It will much better after run in.
randyma 發表於 2011-5-25 01:55

幾時到你 upgrade subwoofer?

randyma

幾時到你 upgrade subwoofer?
ryanenen 發表於 2011-5-25 09:19

My house is too small and the space is limited on subwoofer. I cannot upgrade at this moment.

ryanenen

It's like "a big man Vs a child yelling". With no comparison, the 8R was enjoyable but with now heard under the new Ultra, there is sure no going back. Maybe my some over 200 ft listening area sounds better with/needs a bigger sub.

吾好話我毒你, 你自己試左大口徑 subwoofer,先有依個領會.
上次你重心大心細買 10寸定12寸好

avleadbetter

Dear rklpoon,
Congradulations...I'm the previous owner of your scs2..
I bought a Velodyne as well what's a coincident....

rklpoon

Dear rklpoon,
Congradulations...I'm the previous owner of your scs2..
I bought a Velodyne as well wh ...
avleadbetter 發表於 2011-5-25 18:41

    Congrats.  How about your Thiel sub?

avleadbetter

back to factory for repairment

pinkhung

back to factory for repairment
avleadbetter 發表於 2011-5-25 19:18

   你只 Thiel sub有乜問題

rklpoon

吾好話我毒你, 你自己試左大口徑 subwoofer,先有依個領會.
上次你重心大心細買 10寸定12寸好{: ...
ryanenen 發表於 2011-5-25 09:30

    Yes, worrying nature of me as usual.

BTW, the ARC previously set the x/0 of my L+R+C to 60, surrounds to 120, sub to 120Hz.

Now all the x/o remain the same except the sub is at 80Hz, any implication pls?

rklpoon

back to factory for repairment
avleadbetter 發表於 2011-5-25 19:18

    I guess the repair chagre is expensive. You'll play twin sub after repair?

ryanenen

你只 Thiel sub有乜問題
pinkhung 發表於 2011-5-25 19:31

自動熄power law

ryanenen

Yes, worrying nature of me as usual.

BTW, the ARC previously set the x/0 of my L+R ...
rklpoon 發表於 2011-5-25 20:32

我睇过forum話 Anthem subwoofer xover setting logic 原意
吾係話set 120 hz 就等於 left ,center 既 xover 120hz
將120hz 以下低频交比subwoofer handle.

以下係我估末必岩,
舊subwoofer得 8寸, output 量有限
anthem autoset 會 detect 隻十仔 output 能力
假設隻subwoofer係要能夠係某频段output +/- 3 or 6db 先 pass
甘一路由20hz, 30hz 上, 都吾達標準
直至 120hz 先達到+/- 3/6db
所以set xover to 120hz.

新 velo 12 寸, power大, output量亦大,
所以anthem autoset xover to 80hz,
巳可以output +/- 3/6db
已足夠音壓同量.

你有無問下avsforum d專家?

rklpoon

回復 55# ryanenen

You bet! See below reply:-

Originally Posted by rklpoon  
Thank you for your comments. Yes, the front left is at a corner while more room for the front right , I'll see what I can do. The surrounds are mounted on the wall and the surround backs are "hanging down" form the ceiling.

BTW, the ARC target previously (old sub case)set the x/o for my F+C+R at 60, surrounds at 120 and sub at 120Hz. Now the ARC set the new sub at 80Hz, others remain unchanged, is there any implication pls?

The Values that are quoted in the Targets window not the actual Cross Over values, though they act a little like them. They have more to do with how ARC is assigning resources to correct different frequency ranges. My recollection from looking at your charts is that your sub did not extend very flat past about 80 and started to drop quickly, as such ARC is not dedicating as many resources to correct the upper end. Perhaps your sub was performing differntly on past ARC readings and was extending higher? With your fronts performing well down to 60 I don't think you will notice any difference. You could however play with the sub to see if you can get the upper end to come up a bit. Check that you do not have any filters limiting the upper end (either disable the filters or set them as high as they will go).

I wouldn't worry about it though. ARC knows what it is doing.

Aonther reply:-
ARC's resources for the sub are assigned only to the sub and are not allocated to other speakers if not fully utilized. In fact, the resources for the sub in the MRXs are the same as in the pre/pros but doesn't apply to the other speakers.
John
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rklpoon

Dear rklpoon,
Congradulations...I'm the previous owner of your scs2..
I bought a Velodyne as well wh ...
avleadbetter 發表於 2011-5-25 18:41

    Any comparison between Thiel sub and Ultra in your environmnet pls?

avleadbetter

sorry for late reply..
My thiel Sub burnt out fuse easily
pinkhung hing..ar U using Thiel Sub?

Dear Poon,
I'm using DD+.....it is very good...but the resonance of my room is a big problem..

claero

sorry for late reply..
My thiel Sub burnt out fuse easily
pinkhung hing..ar U using Thiel Sub?

Dear ...
avleadbetter 發表於 2011-5-29 11:05

which thiel model are u using ?

avleadbetter

old old model SW-1