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發表於 2013-7-10 22:39:42 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 ayuen 於 2013-7-10 22:41 編輯
Poire 發表於 2013-7-10 22:16
Anytime! Did you built it from scratch from tt to tonearm yourself? Congrats! Did you use any left ...


The platter, also cut from sandwich carbon plate

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發表於 2013-7-10 22:40:44 | 顯示全部樓層
mac1 發表於 2013-7-10 22:27
袁兄真係冇得頂

謝謝mac1兄十卜
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-7-10 22:43:44 | 顯示全部樓層
ayuen 發表於 2013-7-10 22:35
It's all built from scratch. Here is the TT's CNC bearing and pulley made of copper

The base is m ...

From the choice of materials, you must have already had a great understanding of the role of positive resonance in tt! Wow, a real master work!   
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發表於 2013-7-10 22:52:46 | 顯示全部樓層
Poire 發表於 2013-7-10 22:43
From the choice of materials, you must have already had a great understanding of the role of posit ...

Thanks Poire Hing. Regarding resonance, sandwich carbon fibre is the right way to go.

The point of arrival is a double deck FMD TT. I'm sourcing magnet with directional flux.

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 樓主| 發表於 2013-7-10 23:03:35 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 Poire 於 2013-7-10 23:04 編輯

The double deck design has been quite popular among a number of high end British TTs such SME, Audio Note and EAR. Is it an attempt to capitalise on the advantage of having layers?

Do you have the intention to use a magnet with directional flux as bearing (just like JC Verdier)?
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發表於 2013-7-10 23:14:05 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 ayuen 於 2013-7-10 23:22 編輯
Poire 發表於 2013-7-10 23:03
The double deck design has been quite popular among a number of high end British TTs such SME, Audio ...


The upper deck platter is driven by the lower deck motor mechanic via magnetic flux (Free Magnetic Drive), thus the platter is totally isolated from any vibration and noise caused by motor, belt etc...

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發表於 2013-7-10 23:49:15 | 顯示全部樓層
Poire 發表於 2013-7-10 23:03
The double deck design has been quite popular among a number of high end British TTs such SME, Audio ...

Video showing my first DIY 12" (well tempered alike) carbon fibre tonearm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsdAMUSYdT8

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發表於 2013-7-11 09:07:54 | 顯示全部樓層

Rega's newest 40th Anniversary Naiad TT (£30,000) is also making of foam filled carbon fibre!

http://www.the-ear.net/news/rega-naiad

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發表於 2013-7-11 13:29:25 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 ayuen 於 2013-7-11 13:45 編輯
mac1 發表於 2013-7-11 09:07
Rega's newest 40th Anniversary Naiad TT (£30,000) is also making of foam filled carbon fibre!

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Sandwich carbon fibre is expensive,but £30,000 is......

The building cost of my TT is £1,000!

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發表於 2013-7-11 16:13:47 | 顯示全部樓層
ayuen 發表於 2013-7-11 13:29
Sandwich carbon fibre is expensive,but £30,000 is......  

The building cost o ...

袁前輩,yours one is one of a kind
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發表於 2013-7-11 16:43:02 | 顯示全部樓層
mac1 發表於 2013-7-11 16:13
袁前輩,yours one is one of a kind

Just surprised how they fix the price tag. Given my experience in building a sandwich carbon fibre TT, and factor in all business considerations, £15,000 SRP is reasonable. May be the company puts some rocket science into it
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發表於 2013-7-11 16:50:45 | 顯示全部樓層
ayuen 發表於 2013-7-11 16:43
Just surprised how they fix the price tag. Given my experience in building a sandwich carbon fibre ...

Cos they are the British buisness old butt
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發表於 2013-7-11 16:53:38 | 顯示全部樓層
mac1 發表於 2013-7-11 16:13
袁前輩,yours one is one of a kind

Actually I considered a German made TT, but after checking around I decided to build one using sandwich carbon fibre and copper, with stronger spindle. It also allows me to customize and DIY whatever I want

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 樓主| 發表於 2013-7-11 17:02:20 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 Poire 於 2013-7-11 17:15 編輯
ayuen 發表於 2013-7-10 23:49
Video showing my first DIY 12" (well tempered alike) carbon fibre tonearm

http://www.yo ...


Let's publish this video here for others

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 樓主| 發表於 2013-7-11 17:14:58 | 顯示全部樓層
ayuen 發表於 2013-7-11 16:53
Actually I considered a German made TT, but after checking around I decided to build one using san ...

Carbon fibre renders the sound with a fairly natural touch, notably on the region of the upper frequency. Copper materials form sounds with a more precise feeling, interestingly it works well on the lower region of the frequency. Not sure if it was your plan to combine the 2 together in this project.

By all means, both TT sound good, congrats again
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發表於 2013-7-11 17:25:44 | 顯示全部樓層
ayuen 發表於 2013-7-11 16:53
Actually I considered a German made TT, but after checking around I decided to build one using san ...

I've heard some ching are criticizing that most german made TTs are good quality and very hifi sound. However, they are just not quite musical. Is it true?
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發表於 2013-7-11 19:47:35 | 顯示全部樓層
Poire 發表於 2013-7-11 17:14
Carbon fibre renders the sound with a fairly natural touch, notably on the region of the upper fre ...

Thanks Poire Hing, Yes carbon fibre and copper have their own sonic characterics and a combination of both serves to 'tone' what I want. One more advantage of using sandwich carbon fibre is that it helps to absorb vibration.
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發表於 2013-7-11 19:51:27 | 顯示全部樓層
mac1 發表於 2013-7-11 17:25
I've heard some ching are criticizing that most german made TTs are good quality and very hifi sou ...

I agree with the comment. German TTs sound 'accurate', but unfortunately accurate may not be musical.
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發表於 2013-7-12 10:03:27 | 顯示全部樓層
ayuen 發表於 2013-7-11 19:51
I agree with the comment. German TTs sound 'accurate', but unfortunately accurate may not be music ...

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發表於 2013-7-12 10:04:21 | 顯示全部樓層
Poire 發表於 2013-7-11 17:02
Let's publish this video here for others

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