eosteven's 影音雙修組合 (updated)

eosteven

之前睇戲求其有聲就算, 呢家正式玩AV, 不過無影音分家, 係一套聽歌Hifi組合又要兼顧睇戲.
經過一段時間既學習, 實踐, 選購, 大至上搞掂, 見到下人啦.
我睇戲同聽歌一樣重視質感, 想要自然真實既聲音, 就算睇戲爆到好勁都唔煩燥, 呢家套機總算付合我口味.

Turntable: Clearaudio Champion
Cartridge: Clearaudio Aurum Classic
Tonearm: Rega RB250 + Expressimo Heavyweight (IC: Clearaudio Quint)
Phono: Pro-ject Tube Box Phono (IC: Audioquest Diamondback)
CAS: Transporter (PC: Kharma Matrix, IC: Harmonic Technology Truth-Link XLR)
Bluray player: Philips BDP9500 (PC: CSE L7R, IC: Gotham 11001 RCA x8, Coaxial: Apogee Wide eye)
Media player: HDPRO-DMB X1
Pre amp: Krell HTS 7.1 (PC: Kimble PK10 Gold)
2 ch power amp: Bryston C-4BSST (PC: PS Audio Xtream Statment, IC: Apogee Wide eye XLR)
5 ch power amp: Linn AV5125 (IC: Gotham 11001 RCA x5)
Main speakers: PMC LB1 signature (SC: Gotham 50150)
Subwoofer: PMC TLE1S (PC: Oyaide Tunami, IC: Gotham 11001 RCA x2[for Stereo], Sommer Carbokab XLR[for Surround])
Center speaker: PMC TB2SM-C+ (SC: Gotham 50150)
Surround speakers: PMC DB1S+
Power Conditoner: Shunyata Research Hydra 6
Projector: HITACHI PJ-TX100 + 84" electric screen



Krell HTS 7.1, 影音合一既中樞, 抱住一個博一博心態黎用佢聽歌兼睇戲. 唔係講笑, 用AV amp聽歌, 無HD音效解碼睇戲? 聽歌全靠份Pre-amp靚, 睇戲大把新HD AV amp都揪唔贏佢. 曾經係旗艦機種，質素當然不容置疑。



Bryston C-4BSST 同 PMC LB1 signature係絕配. 以前用Meridian後級, 高低伸延都較強, 甜聲d, 初換Bryston一開聲聽唔慣,不過聽真d發覺聽多左野, 聲音較細緻, 高低線條都較好, 控制力好左



聽歌source Transporter, 睇戲source Philips BDP9500



PMC TLE1S係只有一對6.5寸單元的Subwoofer, 不過唔好睇少佢, 聽歌,睇戲皆能.



PMC LB1 signature同TLE1S無縫連接, 感覺似只係一對喇叭出聲, 聽歌唔會比subwoofer聲污染, 對PMC LB1 signature變左一對低音控制力極佳既座地喇叭.



中置PMC TB2SM-C+


加埋後置PMC DB1S+, 終於PMC一家團聚. 玩埋投影, 聲效100%提升


換左Linn AV5125 5ch power amp, 全家PMC都終於食得飽, 中置人聲雄渾, 圓潤, 好有肉地. 整體音場包圍感, 密度提高不少

jj4044

小弟對您呢幾年音響路上o既極速脫變的確感到十分欣慰！

mainji

回復 141# eosteven


    恭喜你終於齊晒張

hkboy

CHING 套器材好堅

rumor

steven 兄,

使唔使影到POSTER咁靚呀, 殺死人咩....

siuwing

WOW......full set pmc玩AV,比起full set mk更有興趣~!有家訪既第一個報名~

pinkhung

WOW......full set pmc玩AV,比起full set mk更有興趣~!有家訪既第一個報名~
siuwing 發表於 2011-2-6 22:48

    師兄,小心這處有大批mk黨出没,小心.小心

francis_leung21

mk 同pmc 比av...真係唔同感受..不過比音質....pmc 好好多....師兄唔係鍾意d 炸既人...肯定唔會轉mk...不過如果有d 咩毒人帶d 咩線上黎...咁就唔敢擔保la...^^

eosteven

mk 同pmc 比av...真係唔同感受..不過比音質....pmc 好好多....師兄唔係鍾意d 炸既人...肯定唔會轉mk...不過 ...
francis_leung21 發表於 2011-2-9 07:57

我都鍾意炸架, 不過唔鍾意乾炸, 鍾意炸得有質地.
高音太標, 唔夠中頻密度, 我會頂唔順.
呢家套PMC中頻較厚, 比普遍AV爆機系統中頻質感較肥美, 高音比較暗, 伸延得柔順d.

francis_leung21

濕炸....
pmc 速度算快...又幾monitar....仲有英式風格...其實pmc speaker 係幾好架...不過難推d 咁...

eosteven

一開始買部Krell HTS 7.1返黎就係當佢係一部Multi Channel純pre-amp, 一心諗住要搵部靚UD player插佢, 所有解碼靠晒部UD player.
之前用Philips 9500, 雖然經過多次比試都證實係好機一部, 不過就算用佢解碼出黎既HD音效同Krell解碼既DTS/AC3質素都仲差好大距離, 咁我為乜要聽HD音效?  
Philips 9500仲未襯得起Krell HTS 7.1, 未夠好可以解碼比佢食.
為左要一嘗同等質素既HD音效, 一定要升級一部同krell門當戶對既bluray機!!


最後決定Pioneer BDP-09FD, Krell HTS 7.1既pre amp終於可以發揮啦!!


部機好重, 好靚料, 搬到手都斷


一睇份7.1 analog out, 就知係你啦!!







Setting:

Analog out: Pioneer BDP-09FD / Philips 9500 > Gotham 11001 RCA x6 > Krell HTS 7.1
Coaxial out: Pioneer BDP-09FD / Philips 9500 > Neotech NEVD 2001 > Krell HTS 7.1
Pioneer BDP-09FD畫面用Sub HDMI去電視. 聲用方面, 無論用Analog/Coaxial都係開Pure Audio mode 2, 開左既聲真係堅好多, 背景靜好多, 音質立體左.



Pioneer BDP-09FD vs Philips 9500 7.1 analog out

BDP-09FD基本係秒殺9500, 所以無乜好講.
細節, 質感, 空間, 定位, 層次, 動態....全部大勝!!
不過9500聲音比較肥厚, 都幾好肉地, 音場都幾闊, 但又比較埋身, 性格上兩部有少少分別.



Pioneer BDP-09FD vs Philips 9500 coaxial out

BDP-09FD多d Details, 其他無乜好大分別.




Pioneer BDP-09FD vs Philips 9500 畫質

由於我只係用720P 42" LCDTV, 投影機都壞左, 無得試, 所以睇到既畫質有限.
9500顏色好濃, 高飽和, 濃得好深色, 所以有偏暗感覺, 都好似少左顏色過渡既層次.
BDP-09FD顏色清爽通透, 光d, 膚色自然, 好多Texture都睇得清楚d.




Pioneer BDP-09FD HD decode vs Krell HTS7.1 decode (戲肉!!兩部性格真係好唔同)

Pioneer BDP-09FD:
層次分明, 每粒聲都好細致, 好清楚展現係立體既空間之中, 聲音分隔度高.
超高密度, 質感好晶瑩通透, 聲音輪廓好清楚.
高頻伸延算柔順, 標得好高都唔算拮耳. 低音好狠, 量感多好多, 我較細個Subwoofer先頂得順.
整體乜都聽得好清楚, 又非常刺激!!

Krell HTS7.1:
比較埋身, 每樣聲都較大件, 音場密不透風, 一件接一件, 聲音好連貫, 包圍感一流, 之後音樂緊接後面延至好遠既空間.
質感好細膩, 特別人聲好有肉地, 聽得好親切, 音樂感好.
整體比較舒服, 投入感好.
不過Krell HTS7.1係舊解碼,始終少左d Details, 特別係Surround少左野聽, 最高音同最低音都去得無咁盡.




LPCM vs DTS-HD

另外唔比較新舊解碼. 聽有LPCM 5.1既音樂會, 通常都有24bits/48khz, 6.X Mbps以上超高頻寬!!
LPCM 5.1 無需解碼, 唔會比解碼質素/性格影響音色, 每個channel聲經過DAC就analog出.
用Philips 9500播LPCM 5.1都好明顯贏晒9500同Krell既解碼, 證明播LPCM 5.1比較純正, 無比解碼影響, 解碼可能會衰聲.
呢家用左Pioneer BDP-09FD個份analog out, 每個channel都有一粒Wolfson WM8740 DAC, 出黎效果真係無懈可擊!!




總結
Pioneer BDP-09FD真係幾堅, 份解碼, analog out都好勁, 不過要玩得盡佢呢個功能, 又要一部高質素純pre-amp 黎 analog in黎發揮其靚聲.
而Krell HTS 7.1當年就係一部升級pre-amp質素既AV processor, 專比人玩multi-channel聽歌用.
所以Pioneer BDP-09FD同Krell HTS 7.1真係絕配

eosteven

不過呢家覺得部09fd
低音太狠, 聽到好驚, 好辛苦, 已經係部09fd減盡6db subwoofer volume.
又唔想搞krell同PMC subwoofer既setting, 因為都會經常用Krell解碼睇戲.
另外睇管弦樂音樂會都唔對路, d樂器定位亂晒龍, 太前傾, 個定音鼓潛得太深,同太突出, 都唔似樣既.
有冇高手指教下點玩Pioneer既聲?

matt

一開始買部Krell HTS 7.1返黎就係當佢係一部Multi Channel純pre-amp, 一心諗住要搵部靚UD player插佢, 所有 ...
eosteven 發表於 2011-3-31 02:03

    excellent  - good report! you can do as a writer la!

gdsztianmei

一致看好

cam

不過呢家覺得部09fd
低音太狠, 聽到好驚, 好辛苦, 已經係部09fd減盡6db subwoofer volume.
又唔想搞krell同 ...
eosteven 發表於 2011-3-31 02:11

Which RCA cables you are using to connect to Krell ? May be that's the problem.

eosteven

Which RCA cables you are using to connect to Krell ? May be that's the problem.
cam 發表於 2011-3-31 15:02

Pioneer BDP-09FD
IC: Gotham 11001 RCA x6
PC: CSE L7R

eosteven

岩岩同肥線王研究過, 電線影響極大, 太狠既聲已可以係電線度解決
不過試左三條線, 未有最滿意既聲

cam

岩岩同肥線王研究過, 電線影響極大, 太狠既聲已可以係電線度解決
不過試左三條線, 未有最滿意既聲
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eosteven 發表於 2011-3-31 23:35

May be you can try Kimber power cord.

gundamfix2005

AET SCR EVO會唔會好d

cam

AET SCR EVO會唔會好d
gundamfix2005 發表於 2011-4-1 16:01

I think AET is also too powerful (harsh) which he doesn't like.