國產解碼 Gustard X26Pro + C-18 用後報告

redioleong

banjo 發表於 2022-5-23 09:00
9張金牛.

謝謝資訊

redioleong

banjo 發表於 2022-5-23 09:00
9張金牛.

racewong

redioleong 發表於 2022-5-24 12:05

平平地, 買部返去玩下囉.{:5_167:}

dennis88

加多1k買cg-10m更好

https://www.avlife.com.hk/tch/pr ... 1776746325994F5B47C

banjo

dennis88 發表於 2022-5-25 00:39
加多1k買cg-10m更好

https://www.avlife.com.hk/tch/product/ProductPage?cmd=detail&product=328B219584D ...

主要係夾返一套西裝, 起碼望埋去, 唔會唔協調.

racewong

dennis88 發表於 2022-5-25 00:39
加多1k買cg-10m更好

https://www.avlife.com.hk/tch/product/ProductPage?cmd=detail&product=328B219584D ...

比較過？{:5_610:}

hksarac

dennis88 發表於 2022-5-25 00:39
加多1k買cg-10m更好

https://www.avlife.com.hk/tch/product/ProductPage?cmd=detail&product=328B219584D ...

Gustard係出畀自家的dac用的

hksarac

Kenau 發表於 2022-5-22 17:02
保險絲買返gustard出的保險絲，用在gustard的機上很不錯的又不貴，ddc主要是電腦或數播的usb線過去ddc，再 ...

馬爺話Gustard fuse的不及馬爺自己出的

hksarac

racewong 發表於 2022-4-4 14:44
大哥, 你篇文章好毒...攪到我都想玩.

餅主，咁平的入門，你點會玩

hksarac

banjo 發表於 2022-5-22 14:02
我都想換咗X26pro嘅保險絲, 請問用緊邊隻, 係有溫潤效果? 邊度有得買? 有時聽男聲同爆棚嘢, 當然冇問題,  ...

fuse 平平地用Hifi Tuning supreme，貴些用 SR Orange/purple 。加DDC就可以玩I^2S。

banjo

hksarac 發表於 2022-5-26 10:33
fuse 平平地用Hifi Tuning supreme，貴些用 SR Orange/purple  。加DDC就可以玩I^2S。 ...

多謝意見.

wilmerworkshop

hksarac 發表於 2022-5-26 10:23
馬爺話Gustard fuse的不及馬爺自己出的

我冇出 fuse，你講嘅應該係我代理嘅德國 WA 量子 fuse（HK$380/粒），淘寶賣緊嘅「威馬牌」有部份産品係公司團隊搞嘅，因為品牌係屬於公司，雖然最後要我批核，但更多係針對內地聽音取向去開發，所以香港店並冇售賣

如果香港冇賣嘅型號，就唔係由我個人主導開發，有賣就係我主導，所以要百份百由我個人主導，只有於香港店有出售產嘅産品

wilmerworkshop

Kenau 發表於 2022-5-22 17:47
有呀，淘寶歌詩得有得買

我都有返小小貨

tleonard

查實 X26 Pro 係有佢嘅看家本領，只要師兄試試用佢嘅 NOS Mode 去欣賞 705.6 同埋 768 kHz 嘅 files，咁就可以真正發揮佢本身嘅潛能，今日啱啱見到有幾個免費嘅 samples 可以用嚟聽吓『滿血狀態』嘅 X26 Pro 有幾勁：

https://audiowise-canada.myshopify.com/blogs/news/pggb-adds-high-precision-modes

The listening group thus expected some improvement in sound quality but they were shocked at what they heard. Music had a much improved transparency and realism with more nuance and natural detail. If you think this seems far fetched, please check out the high precision processed tracks below (16fS @ 24 bit depth and other settings at defaults). Tracks provided under fair use guidelines for education of the audiophile public.

通常未郁過個 Menu 入面嘅 Settings 就預設係 OFF 嘅狀態：



撳個 remote 粒 Menu 掣或者機身正中間粒 Menu 掣都得，跟住將個箭嘴指向 NOS MODE 之後再改佢做 ON 就搞掂喇：



YouTube 片段去到大約 2 分 15 秒嘅位置亦都有示範點樣改個 NOS MODE 嘅設定：

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SmX0FN7-j0#t=2m15s


或者參考說明書都一樣得：

http://www.gustard.cn/qfy-content/uploads/2021/01/2565a056473ce1f596b356b3684e0d30.pdf#page=7

http://www.gustard.cn/qfy-content/uploads/2021/01/562e364d0ec38c05edf79c71de716319.pdf#page=7

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外國已經有師兄試過 NOS Mode 之後返唔到轉頭：

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/cx-ex-k-s-oladra-antipodes-owners-unite.932942/page-74#post-16621566

What you see on the shelf beneath my K30 is a Gustard x26 Pro DAC and a Gustard C18 master clock. The x26 Pro replaced my Chord TT2 a few weeks ago. It was a pretty big step up (when scaling with either PGGB or HQPlayer with the DAC running in NOS mode).

I was so impressed with the bang for the buck with the x26 Pro that I ordered their C18 master clock. That’s the smaller box sitting on top. This arrived yesterday as did a Purple fuse for the x26 Pro.

What a tremendous all around upgrade from the TT2 powered by a Farad Super3.

Chord Hugo TT2 同 Farad Super3 加埋嘅價錢都幾可觀：

https://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=475549
https://faradpowersupplies.com/shop/en/home/56-26452-super.html
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/cx-ex-k-s-oladra-antipodes-owners-unite.932942/page-92#post-16672302

The Gustard was a significant step up from the TT2, which is astonishing given the price difference. PGGB is a factor in this as I run the Gustard in NOS mode. It‘s not truly non-oversampling but it lets the magic come through. Likewise for scaling with HQPlayer for everything else.

講多句「阿媽係女人」嘅肺腑之言，玩 CAS 嘅重點之一就係盡量提升 files 本身嘅質素：

https://antipodes.support/t/ken-s-occasionally-evolving-system/361

The latest change was to swap my Chord Hugo TT2 for a Gustard X26pro DAC. Never would I have imagined that a $1500 DAC would beat the pants off a $6000 DAC but in fairness, PGGB deserves a good chunk of the credit for this. The X26pro has a NOS node that does minimal amount of processing so that the benefits of PGGB can be be appreciated.

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連 CAS 界當中嘅王者之一 Taiko Audio 都好似話將會增添 PGGB 嘅技術：

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/taiko-audio-sgm-extreme-the-crème-de-la-crème.27433/page-397#post-738259

I forgot to add we are also discussing adding PGGB based real-time and/or offline up/down/resampling/noise shaping and volume control in TAS with the PGGB author. This can have some pretty distinct advantages with various DACs for various reasons,

hksarac

wilmerworkshop 發表於 2022-5-27 01:56
我冇出 fuse，你講嘅應該係我代理嘅德國 WA 量子 fuse（HK$380/粒），淘寶賣緊嘅「威馬牌」有部份産品係 ...

對，是量子fuse

racewong

hksarac 發表於 2022-5-26 10:21
Gustard係出畀自家的dac用的

咁用喺其他既器材唔知表現點呢?

今次比你地毒番轉頭, 想試下部C-18添.

banjo

tleonard 發表於 2022-5-27 22:49
查實 X26 Pro 係有佢嘅看家本領，只要師兄試試用佢嘅 NOS Mode 去欣賞 705.6 同埋 768 kHz 嘅 files，咁就 ...

多謝提供優質音樂檔, 我都係第一次攞到768 kHz 嘅 files, 聽得出好高音樂質感.
我諗Tieonard兄你都係有玩開X26pro, 可以對呢部機咁認真地搵到資料.
外國人居然都會, 對呢部機咁有興趣, 確係意料之外, 證明呢部Dac係真材實料.

banjo

racewong 發表於 2022-5-28 13:15
咁用喺其他既器材唔知表現點呢?

今次比你地毒番轉頭, 想試下部C-18添.

心動不如行動.

wilmerworkshop

racewong 發表於 2022-5-28 13:15
咁用喺其他既器材唔知表現點呢?

今次比你地毒番轉頭, 想試下部C-18添.

安排借你試，C18 出 50ohm 喎

wilmerworkshop

banjo 發表於 2022-5-28 18:11
多謝提供優質音樂檔, 我都係第一次攞到768 kHz 嘅 files, 聽得出好高音樂質感.
我諗Tieonard兄你都係有玩 ...

其實 PCM 176.4KHz 或以上已經可以用 NOS mode，但係碼率當然越高越好。

因為 NOS mode 只對 PCM 176.4KHz 或以上先生效，under 176.4KHz 係自動唔會工作，所以我一般係長開 NOS mode