我的CAS之路 II - USB線材

CKKeung

Any cHing have experience on using Window8 for CAS?
Some people say that it's much better than Win7 & has high potential!

chowhwk

kachow 兄

謝謝你的分享。

一直認為CAS 和 CDT 有一段距離，用Tweak 過的Win7 ， ASIO 等都嘗試過，效果可以接受，但是不能 AB 比較。一張小提琴就有分別。

一直也認為 USB 線起不了作用，看了你的報告，原來一條線可以把距離拉近， 真的要認真試試。。。

obee

CKKeung 發表於 2012-12-18 14:00
Any cHing have experience on using Window8 for CAS?
Some people say that it's much better than Win7  ...

Really? I don't have Win8 yet...

From hardware point of view, having a "real PC" for music source can't sound good, at least my logical thinking can't persuade myself that it may sound better than a simple hardware, given that the goal is just for music source. IMO, a PC'd better for internet surfing, word processing, or casual entertainment but not for audiophile purpose. Unless you wanna setup a "laboratory".

Bei_Hillgrover

再請教Ching多少少用WW時是否是有以下效果?

- 聲音分隔度特別清楚, 結像及定位特別特出, 但就好像不及Entreq般"穏"
- 背景依然好像有少少noise (即不及Entreq很"黑")
- 低頻沒有Entreq般收得結實

kachow

CKKeung 發表於 2012-12-18 14:00
Any cHing have experience on using Window8 for CAS?
Some people say that it's much better than Win7  ...

超牛用緊.. 佢都係由Win7聽人講Win8對USB Driver好d走去轉64bits Win8. 我諗佢會遲d出報告. 不過對聲音質素, 初步係正面, 但係對個interface就吊媽拆蟹...搵個熄機掣都搵左5分鐘..

kachow

chowhwk 發表於 2012-12-18 14:09
kachow 兄

謝謝你的分享。

我其實都試過又放棄過好多次, 呢個我的CAS之路II..對上一篇已經係年幾前..  不過今次真係令我有心機玩.

CAS因為牽涉到電腦. 所以好多條件都有可能影響效果..例如SSD Harddisk, 外置HDD既玩法.. 部機會唔會同時間run好多野. ASIO, 唔同player, 點點點.. 而家我叫做搵到d令我覺得唔會同CD相差太大既CAS玩法. 咁會有心機繼續研究落去. 慢慢將其他人試過話好好既setting, 好處係玩電腦野,對比玩hifi真係好有限錢, 可以續一証實..  總會搵到我既CAS之路..

kachow

ivanchan 發表於 2012-12-18 13:19
ching, 有試過用雙頭USB綫 + ifi 果部"iUSB power" 嗎? 我覺得玩CAS應該試一下...
聲音精神左空間感好左,  ...

呢個我好想試.. 係唔係大約千幾? 同埋如果有左呢個USB power cleaner, 咁之前D人講話用notebook 聽歌時又要蚊電減少雜訊. 應該唔洗點理..

chhanthony

obee 發表於 2012-12-18 12:12
For this Voyage MPD, actually you just need to buy their starter kit (~$1250 HKD). Then it is read ...

Second, if music source is stored on NAS, you need to setup a mount point that points to the network share, via Samba (i.e. CIFS) or NFS.

This is my most concerted.

kachow

obee 發表於 2012-12-18 14:12
Really? I don't have Win8 yet...

From hardware point of view, having a "real PC" for music sourc ...

其實坊間講Win8好過Win7最主要係佢處理USB既手法. 黎得更簡單. 而kernel要做既野亦都無咁多. 所以對音響係有好處.. 不過我都未試過Win8. 等其他師兄講下.

kachow

Bei_Hillgrover 發表於 2012-12-18 14:28
再請教Ching多少少用WW時是否是有以下效果?

- 聲音分隔度特別清楚, 結像及定位特別特出, 但就好像不及Entr ...

睇黎師兄應該鎖定左Entreq或者WW   我篇文係琴晚聽完即刻寫低.. 而家返到公司又忘記左一大節. 如果咁深入, 今晚再聽聽再話你知

ivanchan

kachow 發表於 2012-12-18 14:57
呢個我好想試.. 係唔係大約千幾? 同埋如果有左呢個USB power cleaner, 咁之前D人講話用notebook 聽歌時又 ...

係千幾(千五以下), 我用Notebook 做source, 電就用好Energizer既外置鋰電代替火牛, 保証夠力, 如果靠内置電池, Notebook以High Performance 計, 渣渣聲無晒電...

就算係咁, 加左隻iUSB Power都有明顯改善...可能本身部腦入面都會產生雜訊...

kachow

k500a 發表於 2012-12-18 13:56
Hi 史的墳 C-hing,
Thanks for your sharing.
I also use the dbPoweramp to rip CD but I "FEEL" that  ...

十分認同, 我其實都試過Flac, Wav, Apple lossless等等file...還是wave最好.

至於軟件, 當初我係用Amarra+itune, 聲音會比較Analog. 但係聽耐左就發現有d高低去唔盡.. 所以而家都只係用Mac + itune only.

謝謝師兄分享..我會去試試Mac既Audrivana Plus,同埋Win既Jplay+Jriver.

Bei_Hillgrover

kachow 發表於 2012-12-18 15:06
睇黎師兄應該鎖定左Entreq或者WW   我篇文係琴晚聽完即刻寫低.. 而家返到公司又忘記左一大節. { ...

先謝過Ching

其實以上的聽感是在小弟的同一條Coaxial(有地線及地盒)上發生的

分別只是有沒有將地盒放在墊材上,所以有興趣再探討一下

kachow

Bei_Hillgrover 發表於 2012-12-18 15:14
先謝過Ching

其實以上的聽感是在小弟的同一條Coaxial(有地線及地盒)上發生的

我無Entreq 地盒..不過都將佢駁左落去taralabs既地盒.. 亦只係用佢跟黎個條普通地線..有可能接晒Entreq野後又係另一level...

johnmo

Entreq USB 要去到apollo+地盒 才能全面超越ww pt usb

ivanchan

kachow 發表於 2012-12-18 15:12
十分認同, 我其實都試過Flac, Wav, Apple lossless等等file...還是wave最好.  

至於軟件, 當初 ...

Jplay 成Euro 99, 好贵!! 試用板又每半分鐘停一停...
以前試過+Jriver 用過下...但無試真就放廢了...

dt825

我都認同Entreq konstantin+地盒係好好嘅選擇，豐富嘅音樂感和質感能好好配合CAS嘅特質。
睇睇下各師兄嘅分享攪到想玩番CAS添，好彩部DAC未賣

elo

obee 發表於 2012-12-18 12:12
For this Voyage MPD, actually you just need to buy their starter kit (~$1250 HKD). Then it is read ...

Just setup a Voyage MPD with the starter kit. Connects to an Ap Liu St switching power supply, "Golden Brand" USB cable; compare to my 2011 Mac mini with Amarra/Audirvana & Labkable USB Duo.  I would say I am considering to replace my Mac mini by the Voyage MPD starter kit.

Next step will connect to a Llnear power supply and check how much it would improve.

obee

elo 發表於 2012-12-19 21:29
Just setup a Voyage MPD with the starter kit. Connects to an Ap Liu St switching power supply, "Go ...

Good job man!

obee

elo 發表於 2012-12-19 21:29
Just setup a Voyage MPD with the starter kit. Connects to an Ap Liu St switching power supply, "Go ...

You'll find it, even using switching PSU now, is more 靜, 無咁燥.